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Rangers v Celtic

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Ciaran, Sep 5, 2016.

  1. DevAdvocate

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    One thing that is widely ignored by those hordes, foaming at the mouth and peddling allegations, is that Stein’s son George was a member of the Celtic Boys Club. What parent would knowingly have their child in an organisation, that had the likes of Torbett there preying on kids?

    I certainly wouldn’t as a parent, would any parent? Would we put the ‘good name’ of the businesses we work for ahead of the safety of our children? Why would Stein put Celtic before his son’s safety? I know that I would never put my child’s safety before the name of a football club.
     
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    He had years to talk but said nothing, Jock died in 1985 but we are supposed to believe Birt said nothing until Torbett's trial in 1998.

    Why? What stopped him going to the Cops himself if he knew what was going on and had evidence of it?
     
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    Not sure of his mindset mate. Also not sure why he would lie about it.
     
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  4. monacoger

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    He had to say it at the trial, he was under oath.
     
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    Dev you are an absolute fruitcake! Everycunt knew Jock knew, everyone knew.

    Different times back then as has been played out with religious wing of Celtic (RC Church), Saville was a known nonce and was allowed to deflower young and sweet teen girls (CALM DOWN GROVE) as was Stewart Lee etc.

    Your steadfast refusal to accept that Stein knew (it was an open secret according to 3 former Celtic players and two managers) and that Celtic boys club is not a separate entity is fking hilarious - the fact that you and Mindy seem to be the only Taigs on here doing the #mustdefend surely must show you that you are totally on the wrong side of this.

    CELTIC KNEW
    STEIN KNEW
     
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    Alex Anderson. When Saturday Comes

    “The less said about the whole horrible [Torbett] affair the better, one would think. However, the chance to link Celtic’s greatest manager – no matter how tenuously – with the crime du jour of the tabloid hysteric has proved too tempting for a mindset that has recently infected sections of my club’s support.

    “I have shouted and sung some pretty horrible things in my 30 years of watching Rangers. To say that I was young/drunk/caught up in the moment doesn’t let me off the hook. But at no point did I ever try to present my most hateful, knee-jerk outpourings as fact. “Big Jock Knew”, however, is being proclaimed as the gospel.

    “I’m bound to ask if it’s not a horrendously confused by-product of the recent disappearance of sectarian chanting at Ibrox. The two phenomena have certainly run parallel. When ground closure or Champions League points deductions were mooted last season, anti-Catholic lyrics sung at Ibrox for decades were dropped with alacrity. This clamp-down has since been adhered to and self-policed. It has exposed, once and for all, the bluster behind so much of our support’s previous sectarian posturing. Yet such a sudden culture change on the terraces almost demands a horrible side-effect.

    “You need only see the pictures and hear the testimonies of him helping with the victims of the Ibrox disaster to know about Jock Stein as a man. This is partly why, three days after his death in 1986, the entire Rangers support at Kilbowie Park, Clydebank, stood in perfect silent tribute to the manager who’d given us some of the hardest times in our history. Now, by abusing his memory, we’re doing ourselves far more damage than even Stein could manage.”
     
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    Did not read <sorry>
     
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    Ignoring what you don't like. Truly are a Celtic fan.
     
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    I'm ignoring white noise, that's all it is, no point in trying to have a debate with the likes of him in all truth.
     
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    Birt is pictured after Torbetts return.
    Jock dies.
    A victim tells Macari about Torbett.
    Arrest made.
    Birt THEN makes the claim that Jock told him he booted out Torbett. However Torbett was not booted out, his forthcoming departure at the end of the season was announced.
    Birts statement does not match the facts.
     
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    Reading between the lines I'm pretty sure Birt was a *****.
     
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    Well, he worked for Celtic, so I would say you are correct
     
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    Someone won't want to hear this .

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    "Photographer"
     
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    Quick question Mick...what the **** are you on about?
     
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    Rockall,it's going to kick off.

    PS You're in Spain and probably didn't hear but there's a row brewing.
     
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    Jip close the thread.
     
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    The distances (not that they particularly matter) don't seem right to me. Why is it going to kick off anyway?
     
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