If you vote brexit party you are voting for the most dangerous kinds of nuts. If you vote tory you are voting free marketeers. People need to realise that the Americans look at the NHS are a free for all charge what you like land of milk and honey for their private health system. I note that ford are pulling out of south wales. convenient excuse is brexit but reality is it didn't help in a bad situation. same will be repeated round the country but still people will go for brexit party. Its like 1920s germany. When voters lose their minds and vote for justone thing ignoring all other issues you get bad results.
Democracy has been the cornerstone of western political culture. Elections and voting of the peoples representatives into a parliament which will make decisions on behalf of the people. Great principle! For the first time I am having some doubt. Is it always the best system? When the voters can be manipulated by social media, by unscrupulous marketing, by blatant circulation of fake news, by external states (Russia and others) interfering with elections. A system which delivers someone as self centred and populist as Trump to rule the most powerful country in Earth definitely the best? A system that may yet deliver Brexit Party as the largest single party in Parliament without any credible manifesto on any other issues affecting the British people? A system where the leader of a government gets chosen by 100000 or so mostly older people (average age of 57 years)? A great proportion of those will be retired and with views remote from contemporary working life? All over Europe populist and nationalist parties are on the rise. Dangerous times ahead. Do we still trust people to make the right choice?
the issue is people do not really live history. nobody is standing there at Normandy yesterday thinking my god.... there's nazis in power right now in the USA.. there's fascists on the rise again. the people voting Brexiteers party are doing so cos they don't see any value in Europe cos they are not close enough to the candidates or what they do in Europe .. but if tjey put them in to parliament then thry will live it. it is imo a circular issue. people forget, people don't internalize if they have no direct experience if it imo people have had a great ride for 50 odd years. europe since expansion... eastern europe is growing. people had what was called an economic crash but it was ok here... far worse in Greece and Spain.... why on earth are people.discontent? why? Cos they've allowed rampant uncontrolled capitalism Hoover up money so nobody can buy a house etc etc. solution elect worse rampant capitalists who blame Europeans for it.
all coming out with ****e about doing drugs when younger as if it makes them look cool or something, ****ing idiots don't anymore, but i have smoked the hashish for about 25 ****ing years!!
It's more the rampant free marketeer promises they are making like Gove will end VAT. They are so desperate for power thry will promise anything and you can see what they'll do to the country. Last time the middle ground Tories to their horror have Gove shaft Boris and they scrambled for an alternative and picked may. This time????
All this admitting to drug use has that desperate air of old men trying to be "down with the kids" to get votes. Next they will be after the votes from people on benefits by claiming they were not the richest kids at their boarding school. One of our directors in the bar after a company convention was listening to a couple of the younger guys talking about their upbringing, both had come, like me, from very lower working class backgrounds. This tosser of a director tried to join in by declaring"well although I went to Eton I was not from one of the wealthier families whose children attended". He was living in a converted church in the centre of London at the time!
why are they allowed to promise things to get votes, then not go through with those promises? i'm not that clued up on politics, but surely that's misleading and illegal, it would be in any other form of life!!!
Surely this applies to every politician that has walked the planet. Whatever party they belong to they will say anything to get in power, then once in power look after themselves, extended family, and cronies
Its june, what period does that data cover? We must remember people built up shed loads of stock before march 29th and the car industry expected a total shut down for a couple weeks and planned it in. You could be looking at the "preparations for a brexit that never happened" there I fully expect peoepl to have slow summer especially in manufacturing and suppliers to supermarkets cos shelves and warehouses are brim full and need to be run down.
So: tory party nominees first off the big 3 are all promising massive tax cuts especially for the rich Second they are all "blaming the EU" apparently the eu is holding the uk back from a glorious era and a land of milk and honey. I can see a very very sorry looking tory leader on a general election night conceding defeat
Chances of Brexit compromise 'have all but disappeared' - Sturgeon EPACopyright: EPA Nicola Sturgeon met EU chief negotiator Michel Barnier in BrusselsImage caption: Nicola Sturgeon met EU chief negotiator Michel Barnier in Brussels Nicola Sturgeon has said the chances of the House of Commons reaching a compromise over Brexit have “all but disappeared” as a result of the Tory leadership contest - which she described as “a horror show”. The first minister of Scotland gave a speech at a think tank in Brussels, following a https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-48579887
F****** Tories have managed to make Peter Mandleson look like the most decent politicians under the sun. That is one hell of an achievement. Please God, whenever the next election is, the country follows the lead of Liverpool, London and Manchester in rejecting the Tories in "big style."
Boris Johnson was given a new boost as Tory MPs began the first round of voting today with the endorsement of two centre ground Tories. Andrew Percy, the co-chair of the European Delivery Group, said Mr Johnson was “the only candidate who can deliver Brexit on time” and had appeal across the board. The second endorsement was from Stephen McPartland, the MP for Stevenage, a marginal seat targeted by Labour, who said the former Foreign Secretary would “lead from the centre of politics”. Both MPs held up Mr Johnson as a champion of “One Nation” Conservatism who could unite Britain after Brexit.
Nobody on this board wants Brexit. I repeat nobody. As for Johnson, he can´t even unite his family, so what hope has he got of uniting the country? Time to get rid of the Tories, preferrably ship them and their mad supporters to Australia or somewhere where they engage in madcap politics.
