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Schumacher DID NOT Break The Rules

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by EternalMSC, Sep 12, 2011.

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  1. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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  2. chrispa76

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    How does that argument prove he broke the rules? Watch the video. I agree that he is in the grey area, but I don't understand why people have a problem with it. If you can get away with it why wouldn't you? It's not like he put Hamilton in any danger. It is clear that the "squeeze" was no squeeze at all, in fact looking at it from Jensons on board camera view you can see that MSC is already moving to the right befor HAM tries to pass on the inside. And the changing directions is just silly you cant possibly claim he change direction to DEFEND more than once. It is only defending when the car behind is closing on you, not when you move away from them.

    Anyway I am sick and tired of all the hate towards everyone, I am a fan of the sport and like all drivers.
     
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  3. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    So you post a tongue-in-cheek caption, I put in a tongue-in-cheek response and you get the arse!?

    wtf!?
     
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  4. Bob Bobbinz

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    I think the reason this incident has gotten so much attention is that many people are of the feeling that had the positions of Schumacher and Hamilton been reversed then not only would every man and his dog be saying Hamilton is dangerous and he's going to kill some one some day, but the stewards would most certainly have been involved. personally I thought it was great racing, 2 of the most skilled drivers on the grid battling it out wheel to wheel. Schumacher pushed the rules as far as they would go, good job. Too many drivers want sanitised racing these days.
     
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  5. chrispa76

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    Sorry Chris, wasn't my intention. My reply wasn't really meant to you, more of the ANTI in the entire thread and forum against several drivers. I only wanted to give you the first line as a reply and then I should have created a new post. Please forgive me mate.
     
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  6. allsaintchris.

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    No probs :)
     
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  7. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    only driver to be disqualified from a WDC from being a dirty ramming cheat in a sport that generally lets you get away with it, tries to ram his team-mate off, last year in one race he tried to ram three drivers off in the same race because they had the audacity to be faster than him, lucky to get away with trying to drive Hamilton off in Canada seems he can get away with whatever the **** he likes. He'd probably only get a 5 grid penalty if he actually killed someone.

    Once a cheat, always a cheat.
     
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    Not really sure what you're getting at here Manny. As far as my short memory allows, it appeared to be Hamilton who was forced onto the grass, not the other way around!
     
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    Pretty bitter person are you? For what? It's funny how Hamilton supporters are the ones most against MSC seing hos many similarities they have in ther driving. They both go for every single gap. They both are always 110%. They both are always involved in questionable incidents. Though I think hamilton crashes a lot more, maybe because of lack of experience. And MSC probably are a bit more "cunning" (could also be from experience).

    Oh well, Hope you have a good day Migg, and try not to stress out too much.
     
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  10. Bob Bobbinz

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    Past posts paint Miggs as a Vettel evangelist not a Hamilton fanboy.
     
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  11. chrispa76

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    woops.. Sorry migg :p
    My statement is still true i believe but then its not true in your case.

    Thanks Bob.
     
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    Hamilton fan here too, and I ain't bent outta shape over it.
     
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  13. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    I think you'll find I'm not a Vettel fan-boy either, I just appreciate that out of the front running teams he is the best.
     
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  14. EternalMSC

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    I appreciate that people are going full throttle against Michael Schumacher, I am sure he doesn't need defending.... haters will hate.
     
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    [video=youtube;D93Kgc1GErs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D93Kgc1GErs[/video]

    Tell me what % of yourself is influenced by the commentators here, he is the furthest driver ahead who has the right to make the decision on what line to take... and Brundle goes crazy. Laughable.
     
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  16. cosicave

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    Your statement suggests you do not really appreciate the philosophy behind the rule Manny, even though the stewards chose not to impose a penalty on this occasion.

    I say this regardless of whether or not the rule itself is correct, in spite of it being introduced because of Schumacher's driving; and like others, I feel it was a shame it was felt necessary in the first place. If you remember correctly, it was an effort by the FIA to balance things between drivers because all except one adhered to the ethics of motor racing at the time (bearing in mind that Senna was already dead).

    If you don't like the rule - which I don't either because it should never have become necessary - it's worth researching the reason behind it.
     
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  17. allsaintchris.

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    Schumacher made it acceptable to run your opponent out of road on the exit of a corner. He first did it against damon Hill at Spa in 95.

    It seemed it didn;t matter if you were ALONGSIDE your rival, apparently the 'racing line' dictates you can do whatever you like so long as you are on it.

    But I always thought the WHOLE of the racing circuit was there to be used by the drivers, so in thoery the racing line is a mythical thing. You should not be allowed to run a rival out of road on the outside of a corner if he is alongside you as he is ALONGSIDE you.

    Another Schumacher gem............
     
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  18. cosicave

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    I've taken the liberty of highlighting the very salient point you make ASChris: quite true!

    However, your reference to Herr Schumacher's actions at Spa in '95 as his first of that kind seems to overlook that he was actively encouraged to do it. Having got away with side-swiping the very same driver to cheat a World Championship from its rightful heir, he had been given a licence to continue making his own rules up, which fly in the face of the age-old ethics of motor racing; something which has not changed to this day with Dick Dastardly…

    :D
     
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  19. Nick HCAFC

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    I stood up for Schumi Manny too somewhere on here, maybe you didn't see it?
     
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  20. Nick HCAFC

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    This plus 1!
     
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