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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Lance Forman MEP elect‏@LanceForman May 31
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Believing that leaving the EU with a clean break does not make you a fascist. Believing that remaining in the EU is good for the UK does not make you a fascist Here's how Wiki defines fascism. My annotations..
Only people with fascist sympathies would need to deny the link between Brexit and fascism. There isn’t a link, except in the minds of ultra nationalists and left wing fascists. Young Lance is a Brexit Party MEP elect. As a Jewish man who’s business has been targeted by anti semites I’m curious as to why he’s spending his time on this laughable crap, when there are real fascists out there. Perhaps he should have a look at some of his fellow Brexit Party members. Ann Widdicombe would be very much at home in the Ustase.
 
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I hear Julia Hartley Brewer will be at a dinner party where she will devour Jacob Rees Mogg’s ****. Literally, and with relish.

Corbyn is a ****er but that doesn’t say anything positive about his ideological opponents. They are all just ideologues. This is a woman who tried to make political capital out of the Omagh bombing the day after it happened.
 
Just Call Me Beto ❌‏@KeepItRealist 1m1 minute ago
In the UK, Trump is opposed by the kind of people like Owen Jones and Jeremy Corbyn who idolized Hugo Chavez. You have to understand this before listening to their criticism. #TrumpUKVisit #USStateVisit

It's not just Owen Jones and Jeremy Corbyn though, is it?

In case you missed my earlier post (you almost certainly will have done because it required clicking on a link) here's what Boris Johnson thought about Trump a while back (before he thought he could help him become PM)…..

“Donald Trump’s ill-informed comments are complete and utter nonsense. I think he’s betraying a quite stupefying ignorance that makes him frankly unfit to hold the office of President of the United States.

“I think Donald Trump is clearly out of his mind if he thinks that’s a sensible way to proceed, to ban people going to the United States in that way, or to any country.


“I would invite him to come and see the whole of London and take him round the city but I don’t want to expose Londoners to the risk to any unnecessary risk of meeting Donald Trump.”
 
It's not just Owen Jones and Jeremy Corbyn though, is it?

In case you missed my earlier post (you almost certainly will have done because it required clicking on a link) here's what Boris Johnson thought about Trump a while back (before he thought he could help him become PM)…..

“Donald Trump’s ill-informed comments are complete and utter nonsense. I think he’s betraying a quite stupefying ignorance that makes him frankly unfit to hold the office of President of the United States.

“I think Donald Trump is clearly out of his mind if he thinks that’s a sensible way to proceed, to ban people going to the United States in that way, or to any country.


“I would invite him to come and see the whole of London and take him round the city but I don’t want to expose Londoners to the risk to any unnecessary risk of meeting Donald Trump.”
he could have shown trump all the bank robbers and letter boxes
sinking really fast if you have to resort to bo jo quotes
i didnt think he was someone you took seriously

i always read all your posts and links
you should try it more often
get past the headlines
 
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It's not just Owen Jones and Jeremy Corbyn though, is it?

In case you missed my earlier post (you almost certainly will have done because it required clicking on a link) here's what Boris Johnson thought about Trump a while back (before he thought he could help him become PM)…..

“Donald Trump’s ill-informed comments are complete and utter nonsense. I think he’s betraying a quite stupefying ignorance that makes him frankly unfit to hold the office of President of the United States.

“I think Donald Trump is clearly out of his mind if he thinks that’s a sensible way to proceed, to ban people going to the United States in that way, or to any country.


“I would invite him to come and see the whole of London and take him round the city but I don’t want to expose Londoners to the risk to any unnecessary risk of meeting Donald Trump.”


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Are there any examples of so-called right-wing bands, or other public eye wannabes, making similar calls (see link, below) in respect of left-leaning peoples? There probably is, but I can’t immediately think of any.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48492619

I find the hatred fascinating.

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Now, Fat White Family, who are also mentioned in the article you posted, are playing Glastonbury - they are brilliant, and definately have a lean towards extreme socialism - hope to see them in a few weeks time in Glasgow....
 
Martin Daubney MEP elect‏@MartinDaubney Jun 1
Number of MEPs of colour before the @brexitparty_uk ?
3.
Number now?
6.
So we have doubled the diversity of the bloc.
When can we expect this to be lauded by the BBC/Guardian etc?
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/29/eu-is-too-white-brexit-likely-to-make-it-worse…
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11:13 AM - 1 Jun 2019
The EU is too white – and Brexit likely to make it worse, MEPs and staff say
All 28 European commissioners are white and only three of the 751 MEPs are black
 
“I’m not a stupid, IMPERIALIST English idiot”
says SIR Elton John CBE
— Commander of the Order of the British EMPIRE.
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Michael Gove tells Cabinet ministers he is prepared to delay Brexit until late 2020

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Michael Gove has told Cabinet ministers he is prepared to delay Brexit until late 2020 Credit: James Veysey/REX
Michael Gove has told Cabinet ministers he is prepared to delay Brexit until late 2020 rather than leave without a deal on October 31, The Telegraph has learned.
The Environment Secretary has told colleagues that a no-deal Brexit in October risks triggering a General Election that will put Jeremy Corbyn in Downing Street.
His position puts him directly at odds with other Brexiteer leadership candidates including Boris Johnson, the former foreign secretary, who have committed to leaving on time with or without a deal.
It comes as ministers are braced for Donald Trump, the US President, to say during his State Visit this week that Britain must be prepared to walk away from the EU without a deal....
 
Donald Trump interview: send in Nigel Farage and go for no-deal Brexit, says president
Tim Shipman, Political Editor, in Washington | The Sunday Times
June 1 2019, 10:00pm, The Times
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Nigel Farage with Donald Trump in Washington in MarchTia Dufour/The White House/PA
Donald Trump today calls on Britain to send Nigel Farage to negotiate with Brussels and pursue a no-deal Brexit if the EU refuses to give Britain what it wants.
In an interview with The Sunday Times ahead of his state visit to the UK this week, the American president said the next prime minister should refuse to pay the £39bn Brexit divorce bill and “walk away” if Brussels does not bow to Britain’s demands.
Trump said that it was not too late for Britain to follow his advice and “sue” the EU to give Britain greater “ammunition” in the talks.
And he vowed to “go all out” to secure a free trade deal between Britain and America within months of Brexit taking place to make…
 
Sadly Ubes there are plenty of white power and neo Nazi bands around, lists of them on Wikipedia. Don’t know if they are still going but Skrewdriver were a nasty British example, and a lot of Oi! music went in that direction. I haven’t investigated their lyrics because it’s breakfast time. The exact moral equivalent of these left wing hate peddlers, with whom they have much more in common than they would like to admit. Best to ignore the lot and shame on Glastonbury for giving them a platform. Protest through song is fine and has a long and honourable tradition, pathetic incitement to violence is something different.

**** me you are behind the times G....Skrewdriver disbanded 26 years ago after the murder of their lead singer and Nazi poster boy, Ian Stuart Donaldson in a ‘car crash’........I’ve got a few of their albums in the loft that are meant to be worth a few quid to the right people.
Not all ‘Oi’ bands were racist though, some like ‘The 4 Skins’ and ‘Cocksparrer’ were labelled as such just ‘cos of their look, sound and following......whereas bands like ‘Brutal Attack’, ‘No Remorse’ and ‘Skrewdriver’ were openly racist and Nazi.
 
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71 year old virgin (she has threatened to sue anyone who says she isn’t. I’m happy to take her word for it) Ann Widdicombe is looking forward to the day that ‘science’ can offer gay people the hope to become straight.

I expect she is also keen to be around for ‘science’ to invent a time machine so she can live in a convent in the 11th century.
neednt worry about waiting for science ann
apparently its a choice

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While the doubtless thousands of people who will be protesting against Trump with their repeat joke balloon have a perfect right to spend their time like this, and Trump as an individual deserves no respect, I would be fascinated to know what the protesters think about the D Day commemorations as well. Especially the young ones.

The BBC news has been going big on the 75th anniversary. Interviews with French people who were around at the time last night, which were really interesting. Lots of controversy about the huge numbers of French civilians killed during the invasion, 20,000 in Caen alone. Though one brilliant lady, a former member of the resistance, was pretty scathing about those who criticise the allies, saying words to the effect of ‘who else was going to save us? We were incapable of liberating ourselves. Am I supposed to demand an apology from the 10,000 Americans in the war cemetery down the road?’.


Sadly Ubes there are plenty of white power and neo Nazi bands around, lists of them on Wikipedia. Don’t know if they are still going but Skrewdriver were a nasty British example, and a lot of Oi! music went in that direction. I haven’t investigated their lyrics because it’s breakfast time. The exact moral equivalent of these left wing hate peddlers, with whom they have much more in common than they would like to admit. Best to ignore the lot and shame on Glastonbury for giving them a platform. Protest through song is fine and has a long and honourable tradition, pathetic incitement to violence is something different.

Very true re the French history we tasted nothing like the suffering imo
Mr Trump imo seems to be doing a good job for his country About time we looked at ourselves with the same source passion ... not worried about his views at all they don’t affect me and any silly sod that takes time out to join in yet another blame deflection is weak imo

Remember we come from a land that had Margo Thatcher running it at one time then that weasel Blair

We have no right to say anything imo about anyone else ... but we will it’s everyone else’s fault
 
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