1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Off Topic Politics Thread

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. VocalMinority

    VocalMinority Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    4,109
    Likes Received:
    3,745
    Your 'sources' are more reliable than legal documentation?
    Can you quote these sources this time or is it like your EU sources where we just have to trust you?



    "The court is dealing with an application, dated 20th February 2019 and received by this
    court on the 25th February 2019, for a summons against the proposed defendant,
    Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, for three offences alleging misconduct in a public
    office."

    "PROCEDURAL HISTORY
    4. The application was given to me to consider on the 8th March. On the 15th March the
    proposed defendant was written to inviting him to make written representations about
    the application.
    5. The proposed defendant instructed solicitors. An exchange of correspondence led to
    my holding a closed hearing on the 14th May 2019 dealing with disclosure of the
    documents referred to in the information and an earlier legal opinion given to the
    applicant. A public hearing took place on the 23rd May 2019"
     
    #16841
    Last edited: May 29, 2019
    StJabbo likes this.
  2. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    9,598
    Likes Received:
    2,763
    ....and you still don't think there is a likely conspiracy at this moment.......IE you all think he's guilty? before the conclusions. Why do I need to prove what Im saying from my different sources?? Either way if I did you would obviously want to try and discredit them. Its just their opinion which I trust a lot more than the newspapers. Is it wrong that I am to mention it on here because it goes against your thinking?
     
    #16842
  3. VocalMinority

    VocalMinority Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    4,109
    Likes Received:
    3,745
    What the hell are you on about?
    Those are LEGAL COURT DOCUMENTS
    as witnessed by and seemingly not contradicted by boris Johnson's own lawyers.

    These are not opinions they are facts. The timing is factually coincidental with May's resignation.

    When this legal process started it was believed we would have already left the EU by now.
    And that's not even taking into account how long it's taken to crowd fund etc.

    Whether he's guilty or not has little to do with the timing, other than the decision by the person in charge of the case that that was enough evidence to proceed to a public hearing and then trail.
     
    #16843
    San Tejón and StJabbo like this.
  4. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    9,598
    Likes Received:
    2,763
    I tell you what the hell I'm on about........I have not disagreed with anything you have said.........All I have said is I feel the big publicity around the case is a bit suspicious to me. You obviously disagree.....as is your right but Don't keep having a go at me because I think differently to you.........
     
    #16844
    ImpSaint likes this.
  5. VocalMinority

    VocalMinority Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    4,109
    Likes Received:
    3,745
    I
    Think you need to reread your first post and retract that statement then rather than slandering our legal system and judges if you no longer think the timing of this going public is suspicious :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
    #16845
    tiggermaster and StJabbo like this.
  6. StJabbo

    StJabbo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2012
    Messages:
    646
    Likes Received:
    674
    No conspiracy or assumption of guilt. Conspiracy by whom? There is a case to be answered which may end up in front of a jury by which time the defendant could be PM. What sort of a triumph is that can someone tell me?
     
    #16846
    VocalMinority likes this.
  7. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2011
    Messages:
    39,383
    Likes Received:
    8,819
    Nope.
     
    #16847
    Archers Road and VocalMinority like this.
  8. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    9,598
    Likes Received:
    2,763
    With all the scandal going on do you honestly think he could still be PM ??? Conspiracy perhaps by news papers or the quangos that notify the papers or remind them.........Am I not entitled to think what I do? Have we seen all the dirt that is likely to come out regarding the pm's successors? I hope we have but somehow I doubt it............
     
    #16848
  9. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2011
    Messages:
    39,282
    Likes Received:
    39,199
    Why should a court case involving a public figure like Boris not be in the papers or TV? I honestly don’t see what you’re worried about, this has been in the public domain for months and months, as anyone taking an interest could find out. It’s probably been discussed on this forum before now as well. The only possible conspiracy is the leadership election taking place at the same time, which could possibly be down to the men in grey suits forcing May to resign at this time to put Boris in an impossible position. So if there is a conspiracy, it’s going on deep in the bowels of the Tory Party.
     
    #16849
  10. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    9,598
    Likes Received:
    2,763
    I haven’t said it shouldn’t be in the papers or TV......Only that to me every time he is seen in a slightly favourable light. Or we haven’t been reminded for a few days of the pending court case......it makes the headlines. I certainly don’t hope he makes pm. .........and yes I do think there are those in the Tory party trying to ensure he is not in the running.
     
    #16850

  11. VocalMinority

    VocalMinority Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    4,109
    Likes Received:
    3,745
    Out of all the reason for the Tory party to be forcing May to resign I don't think stitching Boris up would be at the top <laugh>

    (Not that in trying to say you actually believe that theory)

    Anyway the reasons why this has taken the time it has and why has been made public is all in those court documents produced by the judge.

    The hearing where it was decided to proceed with the trial and that this trial would be made public only took place over the last few days after months of discussions with Johnsons lawyers and other dated legal steps.

    Saying otherwise is accusing the judge of lying and on a public forum is defamation and actually not something you are entitled to do without evidence you could present in court.
     
    #16851
    Saints_Alive, StJabbo and ChilcoSaint like this.
  12. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2011
    Messages:
    39,383
    Likes Received:
    8,819
    Theresa May is a Remainer, and I hope now that when she steps down from PM she'll go back to fighting the Remain cause. Stepping down at this time is her final act at cutting Boris Johnson off at the knees. She presided over an impossible situation while at No. 10. and this is the one good thing she has done. Whether she was helped by the men in grey suits, I don't know. But if there is any shady conspiracy, I'd be willing to bet it's there. After all, the Tory Party never does anything out in the open. It's all secretly behind closed doors of smoked filled rooms and always has been.
     
    #16852
  13. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    7,842
    Likes Received:
    5,255
    probably not true but if it makes me laugh I'll read it

    61247588_1279489415544999_2738814178377596928_n.jpg
     
    #16853
  14. San Tejón

    San Tejón Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2014
    Messages:
    16,135
    Likes Received:
    21,276
    Is Boris EVER seen in favourable light, slight or otherwise?
    The man is a proven liar, makes comments that are/can be considered racist, has cheated on his wife several times, and despite his apparent academic intelligence, he is a buffoon of the highest order.
    I struggle to understand why people feel the need to defend him.
     
    #16854
  15. San Tejón

    San Tejón Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2014
    Messages:
    16,135
    Likes Received:
    21,276
    #16855
    Last edited: May 29, 2019
    Saints_Alive likes this.
  16. StJabbo

    StJabbo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2012
    Messages:
    646
    Likes Received:
    674
    Who's turn over the barrel?
     
    #16856
  17. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2011
    Messages:
    39,282
    Likes Received:
    39,199
    #16857
  18. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2011
    Messages:
    39,383
    Likes Received:
    8,819
    #16858
  19. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2011
    Messages:
    39,282
    Likes Received:
    39,199
    #16859
  20. Schad

    Schad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2011
    Messages:
    17,837
    Likes Received:
    13,160
    It's 100% true; I posted it a few pages back, sourced from the BBC on election night.

    Reminds me of the infamous Lizard People ballot...back in 2008, there was a very important recount for a US Senate seat. On one of the ballots, the person wrote in "Lizard People" for every race, but also selected one of the Senate candidates. Thus, a bunch of high-priced lawyers had to argue at great length about whether the person intended to vote for Al Franken, or a fictional race of extraterrestrials living in the centre of the earth:

    https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=98272423
     
    #16860

Share This Page