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Off Topic Brexiterrs vote today

Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by Red Robin, May 23, 2019.

  1. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    We will be leaving we just need to make sure the right person is taking us out RP
     
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  2. BCFCRob

    BCFCRob Well-Known Member

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    Looking at who's likely to come in as Tory leader I think that's highly unlikely.

    Mathematically we don't have enough time for another referendum - at this point I think no deal is looking likely.
     
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  3. RedorDead

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    Do you, now I think it will happen on the 31st October.

    I’ve never hidden the fact that even though I lost (used to it following City) but I just want to get on with it, and wished it was mandatory that once the vote was counted then should of been year end 2016.
     
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  4. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    I hope your right Rob and city get promoted next season job done :1980_boogie_down:
     
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    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    In my lifetime every General Election and the Referendum of 1975 was 'mandatory'.
    This Referendum is the first election where democracy has been cast aside.

    Now I see another Gina Miller is taking Boris to court. Will he also take Osborne for his lies about 800k being redundant the year after 2016 ?
    Where were these types when Blair took us into Iraq or those who told us we should join the Euro currency.

    I'm afraid the Liberal elite will use anything to thwart the result of the 2016 Referendum.
    Rob, not sure you're aware but you, in fact all of us, are being played.
     
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  6. BCFCRob

    BCFCRob Well-Known Member

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    Redprintt you can't whinge about the 'elite' when you have Boris, Rees-Mogg and Farage on your side. They're every bit a part of the establishment that they try to claim they're away from. Both sides have the 'elite' I'm afraid!

    Your point regarding Gina Miller is spot on, I can't disagree at all.
     
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  7. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    Add May to that as well.how many lies has she spouted,how many times did she say we were leaving.

    All politicians spout bullshit unfortunately they say want they want and get away with it.

    They should all be brought to book.
     
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  8. BCFCRob

    BCFCRob Well-Known Member

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    Yeah exactly. And you can add Boris to that, he was 100% remain until he saw a sniff of the Prime Minister job and he massively u-turned. No wonder people hate politicians. They're all as bad as each other, including Farage I'm afraid.
     
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  9. ccfcremotesupport

    ccfcremotesupport Well-Known Member

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    And that's a good thing?

    Low interest rates are responsible for the huge borrowings people are undertaking, for rampant house price inflation.
    It's an inverted pyramid, and at some point it will fall over.

    Low interest rates go with low inflation and inflation erodes debt.

    At some point, interest rates WILL increase and at that time a lot of people will suffer a lot of hardship.

    Low interest rates for a prolonged period is not necessarily a good thing.
     
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    BCFCRob Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I'd argue that's irrelevant to Brexit too. Obviously it could accelerate the process one way or the other but they've been low for a long, long time now.
     
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  11. Captain Jack Sparrow

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    I didn't say that. Cliftonville did. I quoted him <ok>
     
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  12. johngalleyfan2

    johngalleyfan2 Well-Known Member

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    DO NOT get confused with what is said that is subject to outside influence .. vote in HC .. like Corboliks threatening his minions with wrath . expelling them for being democratic … TM has said all that a person in her position has had to say... politicians within the HC have certain immunities .. as I HAVE POINTED OUT .. things are said that never can be because others have influence over there delivery.
    The Boris thing is taken as a £350 million payment to …. it neither covers a max or minimum whether gross or nett …. this is a private prosecution which so far has been paid for by money raising on faceache by those that feel it is worth £5 or so to go to stage 1 .. when it goes to, if it does there is no expenses / costs awarded and will they have the £millions to pay the court?? This is likely to end with the next hearing [private] which will of course be public knowledge …. a distraction no more than
     
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  13. johngalleyfan2

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    why, and asked you before got no answer, did BORIS MAKE THE PROGRAMME, [ printed it bigger in case you missed it last time ] advocating all the advantages of leave v Cameron who was the advocate of the dangers of doing so and pointing out the odd advantage of remaining? think this was over a 2 or 3 week span …

    TOTALLY CANNOT AGREE WITH THAT... how the f**** does inflation erode debt????
    the people that will suffer hardship will be the erjits that are irresponsible at managing their affairs...
    money and economics is a circle … history PROVES that … a bit like the theory of what goes up must come down if in a free space …
     
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    just crossing the t's and dotting the eyes ….. :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  15. ccfcremotesupport

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    No need to shout just because you don't understand.

    It works like this.
    You take out a mortgage for twice your salary.
    No inflation, no / small salary rises (which is what we've seen for the last 10 years). 10 years in, your debt is still twice your salary.
    High inflation, high salary increases. Let's say you get 10% a year, 8 or so years in (compound interest) and your salary has doubled, so your debt is now only once your salary. In comparison with your salary, your debt had halved, the debt has been eroded.
    It's a well touted economic rule.
    Shouting doesn't change the fact.:emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  16. BCFCRob

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    Probably because he's a sycophantic power-grabbing loon.



    This isn't a remain v leave debate from me. I just think Boris is a ****ing selfish idiot. Just like some leavers and some remainers. He'll change his mind to anything if it gets him more power.
     
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  17. wizered

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    It sounds like you're talking about Corbyn to me, down to his bootlaces.
     
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    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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  19. BCFCRob

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    What has Corbyn changed his mind on then in order to get more power?

    Don't get me wrong he has his faults, he's been pretty much useless the past 2 years, but one thing I'd say is that he's at least been consistent, even if that means consistently ****.
     
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  20. wizered

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    These make good reading about him ~

    * Many readers might be surprised to learn that the new leader of the Labour party actually voted to pull out of the EU in the 1970s, and voted against the Maastricht treaty of 1993. What has changed his mind?
    https://www.euractiv.com/section/uk...the-labour-leader-changed-his-mind-on-brexit/

    * Reality Check verdict: Mr Corbyn's message has certainly changed, either because he has changed his mind or because he misspoke on 24 June and waited a month to correct himself.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-uk-leaves-the-eu-36866170

    * The left-wing veteran seems
    to have changed his mind on Brexit as his views on the bloc appeared to be very different in the past.
    He voted against membership in 1975, voted against the Maastricht Treaty in 1993, and voted against the Lisbon Treaty in 2009.
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1...ews-labour-leader-anti-eu-speech-revealed-spt

    * It’s hard to say what is hardest in politics
    , between changing your mind and being seen to: but Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership has been defined by its readiness to reject the consensus, and do things differently. If anyone could perform that obvious yet daunting act – revising a stance, in the light of new information – it’s him.
    https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/to...for-jeremy-corbyn-changing-his-mind-1-5673055
     
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