How about a remainer strong leader who tells lies, Cameron and world war 3... https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brexit-could-trigger-world-war-7928607 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...-increase-risk-of-europe-descending-into-war/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36243296 https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ron-right-leaving-eu-brexit-increase-risk-war Just for a bit of fun none of the above reports listed are from the Daily Mail, some remainers are so self assured, not all, are lieing ********** and fence sitters. 2 sides to every discussion, all must be respected and heard then you can make a balanced, individual decision on truth or fact.
Wiz you've used 4 different sources but all saying one thing, that's now how it works . You're absolutely right though, it was a stupid thing of him to say, and it was a lie, but let's face it he was a **** politician. In my opinion if you can't tell the difference between the Customs Union and the Single Market, if you don't know what the rules on immigration are, if you have no clue about WTO, if you don't even know what a trade deal IS, then don't you think you have a responsibility to research the decision you're making? I guarantee there are at least 3 regular posters in these threads who could not explain the above. Ridiculous. And that, in a nutshell, is why people think leaving with no deal is going to be absolutely fine. They don't know. And then they try to pretend they do know.
Deliberate so people get the point, we are not all always influenced by a single source, we get variety, we are not all thick, biased individuals, we are well imformed and can make our own balanced assessments and the majority voted leave, the polarised, narrowminded, self seeking, part timers in the established elite,don't and won't admit the truth, they hate to lose control, that is where our democracy is breaking down. We are being denied our rights but the same old tactics are being applied as in Ireland, France, Denmark ect, keep giving them more votes, time marches on and minds will be frustrated and changed, when they eventually get their way, slam, the democratic door is shut and they regain control, job done. The people lose and will be convinced it was all their own faults anyway.
With all due respect wiz, we have leave voters in here who don't know what trade deals are, don't know the difference between the single market and customs union, had never heard of WTO before the referendum, are unaware that we can block Turkey joining, I could go on... I'm not calling anybody stupid. But they are certainly not well-informed.
Rob let's turn it around and look at it a different way. How do you now what things will be like when we are free of the corrupt mob in Brussels that are milking funds from us. Where at present is all the doom and gloom,the UK IS THE STRONGEST ECONOMY IN EUROPE as it stands today and all the money men think it will only get stronger when we leave.
No it's not. And all the money men think it will damage us for decades. If you'd ever done some reading that is... And you embody everything that I've just described. Not a clue about what you're voting on. You just know that you want out. At least the other leave voters I can respect.
The highest amount in employment for the 55 years i have been on this planet. Interest rates are the lowest level in my lifetime. We want to control our own destiny with people we have voted for doing the best for the UK. My business is booming the best its been in 28 years ,I'm paying staff way above the average in our industry. But i don't want to be run from Brussels.
Hate to break it to you RR, but none of that makes the UK the strongest economy in Europe. If you want some facts (a rare treat for you), we've gone from the fastest growing economy in the G7 for 3 years, to now being the slowest. Oh, and we've not even left yet.
if it was labour we would have the first time voting students with tears as not abolished uni fee's cant afford to money men mostly off shore higher unemployment higher income tax more lending so imminent start of the next Labour Black hole UK investment down cost of inflation up interest rates up £ suffering against world currencies and the list would be getting longer ……. AS EVERYONE KNOWS you cant be top of the world at anything for ever.. the stock market grows and grows and grows and then inevitably it has to readjust itself and either crash's [ possible domino effect] or goes into decline as those that have made a lot of money decide ...um been going up and up and will have to go down again or else I lose money SO HEDGE INTO SOMETHING ELSE … GOLD SILVER PLATINUM OIL whatever .. others see the share going down so decide to sell and buy back when lower . causes a stir so and so plunging so decide to cash in and hey market drops out … I KNOW it is not directly the same as growth of an economy but the mechanics is similar …. and whilst there may be influence from the f***** mess that is Brexit … go back to to before the referendum when a load of so called influential individuals painted the picture of massive unemployment financial crash's companies going out business....no fresh food etc etc and where is it?????????? it never happened and in fact it was after this point in time we began/maintained our growth … the massive stockpiling has led to the current demise …….
no body knows the outcome of what a no deal might be ...it is all personal opinions of conjecture . depending on what it seems the individual spouting yay or nay has as their own agenda
Tuition fees. UK: €11,600 Italy: €1,500 France: €189 Sweden: Free Spain: €1,800 Belgium: €800 If we have the fifth highest economy in the world, why can't we afford free/cheap tuition fees when all of these lesser countries can? Maybe Labour were actually right on this one. Pesky facts eh?
Because over 50% come here from abroad a good little earner for the University. My youngest in 4th year medical school in Leeds and over 50% of the people are foreign. I ended up buying a house up there and saving a bloody fortune
Which backs up my argument meaning we could afford free tuition if we wanted to offer it. We just choose not to.
So who would pay for the fantastic facility's we have in the UK are you expecting us tax payers to pay for it.
uuuuum how do these compare to the UK economy? and how many have foreign students … a mass exodus from the UK to any of these countries would seem to be in order then they can all go there take up residence enjoy the sun or snow and get well educated … hang on though! why do students from these countries choose to come here to be educated? .. might it be the level in their country is so much below the quality they get here … maybe if they all stayed home [ country ] .. 2/3rds of our uni's could close and then we could [ government ] subsidize the fee to £1000 a year ………….. mind you that would impact the unemployment figures … ps RR are you sure it is only 50% one uni I have dealings with more regularly the students reckon on their being less than 40% homegrown!
I'm not saying we should do it. JGF just said that it would bankrupt us, so I pointed out that he was incorrect.
But surely that’s a good thing if they are paying. It’s all money at the end of the day. Not to bad are we us foreigners.
Don't know why we who voted to leave bother with this anymore. Must admit I became more hopeful to leave when May finally resigned. However, the man who will decide Brexit has had his say from America. Bercow. Rest easy Rob, you've won.
