I'd like to be there too, please. I have little constructive to offer, but would sit across from the Belgians and simply flick bogies at them at regular intervals.
You bloody won't - I was promised that role three years ago! If it makes you feel better the one where you sit across from the Swedes and make snoring noises every time they speak is still up for grabs..
Now you see, that is complete tosh and a lie being put out there by panicked remainers. You don't take into account any Tory or Labour votes. You don't take into account any votes for other brexit parties. Millions of Labour voters voted leave and most Tory voters are leave supporters. Add it all up and, according to electoral experts, nothing has changed. This is what I said earlier. Remainers claiming victory or even more hilarious, that the Brexit party had a poor result stinks of desperation.
Quite amusing really. Our local French supporter is even complaining that us leavers can't except anything and always complain. You couldn't make it up.
I’ve met three people since Thursday, all of whom voted ‘remain’ in the referendum, but Brexit Party in the EU vote. Interestingly, two did so because they’re fundamentally democrats, believing the result of the referendum should be honoured, whilst the third simply believes we need to put an end to the “****ing bickering” and move on. I haven’t met anybody that voted ‘leave’ in the referendum, but Liberal Greenyprats in the EU erections.
There are Remainers that say, fair enough, we lost the referendum, democracy dictates that we leave the EU. Then there are the Remoaners that will use every ridiculous argument and insult available to fudge the process, even at the expense of the democracy of this country. I have nothing but disdain for the Soubrys, Adonises,Campbells, Grieves, Blairs, Heseltines, Bercows, Lib Dems en masse. I'd love to stick 'em all on a one way train to Brussels where they can do their bleating to their heart's content.
As a remainer who thinks we have to honour the referendum result, I think your attitude, if it extends to everyone who voted Remain and is agitating to prevent Brexit, through signing petitions, going on marches, posting on here or droning on about it down the pub, is problematic. Let’s say you get your way, as I suspect you will, and we leave on WTO terms, what are you (and by extension hard Brexit politicians) going to do to stop this bile, which is close to hatred, continuing forever? How long do you want to despise your neighbours? I should add that exactly the same goes for hard core remainers and their feelings about Leavers. It’s a brilliant example of the limits of parliamentary democracy. Liberalism accepts that disagreement is part of the political process, and that people who disagree profoundly can live together. But eventually, the parliamentary debate does end, and someone gets his way while someone else does not. The state’s job is to provide not the coffeehouse for the debate, but the threat of a beating to compel the loser to accept the result.* We rarely reach this point so explicitly, but Brexit has done it, in glaring, stark HD technicolour. Roughly half the country is going to very clearly ‘lose’, whatever the outcome. It’s usually a smaller proportion of the population, or one with no voice, or a section able to avoid the full consequences of ‘losing’. Can our system of democracy cope with it? Or is Brexit not, in fact, a big or important enough thing to drive us to the edge? Brexit itself is inherently boring now, but its social and political consequences are genuinely exciting. Who’s interests does the state actually serve when push comes to shove? Ideally or in reality? * this is an idea stolen from Carl Schmitt, a Nazi philosopher (bit of an oxymoron), which I find it hard to find fault with. I strongly disagree with the conclusions he draws, of course. I found it buried in an Atlantic magazine article about the alt right troll and authentic neo Nazi Richard Spencer, a truly odious specimen.
didnt realise the uk was awash with money if yours was up for renewal at the same time is yours free or will it get more expensive to cover the leeds cost Gove to offer three million EU nationals free British passports Tamara Cohen, political correspondent 23 hrs ago please log in to view this image © Imagebridge Michael Gove is offering to give three million EU nationals British citizenship - free of charge The environment secretary, who threw his hat into the ring for the Tory leadership at the weekend, will make the offer to EU nationals who were living in the UK at the time of the June 2016 referendum. The £1,330 naturalisation fee would be waived as a gesture of goodwill, Michael Gove's aides confirmed to Sky News. There are understood to be three million EU citizens in the UK who would be eligible, once they have been resident for five years. The proposal - to be formally unveiled next week - is a victory for Conservative MP Alberto Costa who has been campaigning for the rights of EU citizens post-Brexit for many months. The Home Office's settled status scheme, under which EU citizens must prove they have lived in the UK for five years or they stand to lose their rights after Brexit, would also be changed to a registration scheme, under Mr Gove's plans. Brexit in-depth: The latest news, analysis and expert opinion Mr Costa, who is supporting him for the leadership, told Sky News: "What Michael is offering is an incentive to EU nationals who register to get British citizenship at no cost. "They would, as British citIzens, be able to vote in general elections, so it would swell the franchise by up to three million people at the next general election in 2022. "It's the Conservative Party which initiated this whole debacle, of EU citizens being deprived of their rights. We should sort it out. In a sense, it is apologising and saying we welcome you, we want you to join the British family." Naturalisation fees have risen dramatically in recent years, prompting criticism that they are becoming a major barrier to application. Mr Costa expressed deep concerns earlier this year that the settled status scheme could deprive people who have lived in the UK for decades of their rights if they are unaware they need to apply. He approached the Home Secretary Sajid Javid about his citizenship proposals, but said Mr Javid had notified him two weeks ago that he would not take it up. please log in to view this image © Sky News Screen Grab Alberto Costa welcomes Mr Gove's move "Theresa May was never prepared to do this, she saw EU citizens as bargaining chips which has created a toxic atmosphere", Mr Costa said. "And the home secretary is not prepared to do it. Michael Gove, who led the Vote Leave campaign, takes a different approach. "This is generous, large-hearted, fee free offer. It's the morally right thing to do and will detoxify an unpleasant situation for the Conservative Party." Sources in Mr Gove's team say the offer is about healing the divisions caused by the referendum. A source close to him said: "Michael Gove is ready to unite the country. Guaranteeing the rights of EU nationals here in the UK through a declaratory scheme, and making a generous offer of citizenship to those lawfully here at the time of the referendum, is a first step in that direction. "This is simply the right thing to do - honouring the promise of Vote Leave that EU nationals studying, working and living in the UK were welcome to stay. Michael Gove led that campaign and now he's ready to deliver Brexit." British expats living in Europe have told Sky News said they feel they are in limbo, as they expect their governments to reciprocate the British approach. Mr Costa said the scheme should lead to British residents in European countries being offered citizenship. Mr Gove's candidacy was announced this weekend and electrifies a race which includes former foreign secretary Boris Johnson - whose campaign he torpedoed in 2016. He argued that he has a proven track record running government departments.
having said that i cant imagine giving away 3 million british passports to foreigners will help his election chances much
Wayne Rooney was asked for his thoughts on Brexit and he said it's the most important meal of the day.
