This is so true. This whole inflated player prices kicked off post Fergie....with Pogba being the tipping point. Utd fans cannot complain one iota imo
Exactly. Man Utd are one of 3 clubs to spend over £1bn since 1991. Apparently someone else getting money and being able to compete at the top level for transfers is a disgrace and will slowly ruin the league, though. Amazing.
I've already said it's about the reach. Also accept that the prem has the biggest appeal worldwide. But like you've pointed out, a club like Juve, Milan, Barca, Real, even Athletico M buying the best players in the world will glamorise those already relatively well known clubs.
Calm down fella you're going off on one for no reason. None of the points you've raised have anything to do with what's being discussed.
Surely the egos want trophies, domination, to satisfy them? Once you have a handful of mega-rich clubs in the one league it obviously becomes harder to do that. Would any of these ego-trip owners want to plough billions into a club only to end up 6th? Football clubs are probably a penis substitute for these guys so they'll want to be waving it around for all to see. I think mito's point was that it's unlikely anyone would fork out that much for us - not that we aren't worth it. For these reasons, amongst others, I'm not convinced FSG will sell up anytime soon. If you have a business that is earning steadily why sell it on? If the money you make on it would be earned just by keeping it, it makes sense to hold on to it. Of course, I'm guessing - I have no idea what FSG's long-term plans are.
We’re on the same page Who will be the big pull at Barca once Messi is gone? Look at Madrid today after Ronaldo. Those two clubs are going to suffer if they don’t find the next big thing quickly.
None of us do tbh Yes, the egos want to win. But same ego’s have become super wealthy by making money, not losing it. If a European super league happens, it will dwarf the premier league money making every investment worthwhile. All speculation, obviously. Personally, I hope it never happens. National leagues will be decimated. I’m still in favour of having more home grown players in our squads. However, I feel it’s inevitable give time.
Probably waiting to see who wins the CL Seriously though they'll just do what they've always done and buy the biggest superstars of the time. The biggest problem for a club like Barca is the lack of homegrown players coming through. Their last recognised real talent to come through (Olmo) left for Zagreb saying his progression would go up if he went there. The safety net for both RM and Barca is the two horse race in La Liga. One thing's for sure about both those clubs, when they come knocking no player says no.
Do you think they will? Imo he better start buying players instead of loaning them, atm they look like they're going to get spanked week in week out.
It's him or Leicester for 9th. fear for spurs tbh. if they don't win the cl final it could all just fall apart with the massive.money flowing in again.
Honestly, whats the difference for everyone else? Its either a PSG situation or a Bayern/Juventus situation. It's not good for the long term health of a league either way.
I think it would be great for Newcastle tbh Got to get used to it or switch off All the big clubs have done it in the past -this is just evolution Don’t have to like it - sadly Going to try to enjoy this final as who knows when will be here again Reminds me of playing poker with the big boys The big big boys have moved in and one day someone bigger will move in I shall be long gone though ...
I'd have to disagree and say they really haven't. It will be good for Newcastle though. Mainly all good, the only disadvantage is the opportunity for youth coming through. Not sure how much difference it will make to Newcastle but 6/7 clubs becoming the benefactors of billionaires, what impact will that have on bringing through talent. Some clubs in this country hold on to that no matter how much money they have, no surprise it's usually clubs that have had a history of success prior.
I would have to disagree too I think Liverpool paid inflated wages in the 80s The stories go way back of clubs offering families cash etc Utd paid well had endorsements and increased some of the transfer fees along with chavs Just the law of the jungle I’m afraid Can see what your saying - I think - and I want to agree but fear I am being hypocritical if I do Lfc used to bat their eyelids at a lower league club and generally off the player would trot - see Southampton recently Same with Utd Now there is a bigger offer on the table That said someone has on here pointed out where the money has come from That I can get behind - that is something that could be looked at by the powers that be under fit and proper assessment But saying that it’s better to offer some one who is on 50p an hour a £1 per hour is more acceptable than someone offering the person on 50p an hour £10 an hour Just seems hypocritical to me but only a personal viewpoint
Nope not having that RIP Look nearly all success is bought in a way. For title-winning teams in any era, how many of our heroes were born and bred locally? That said, Liverpool and United's most successful days came as a result of good old-fashioned wheeling and dealing, not supplementary gifts from a benefactor as in the modern game. Liverpool bought players in the 70s and 80's, United in the 90's and 2000's but not like Chelsea did or City do now. Liverpool's first European Cup came with 4 homegrown players and those they bought from Scunthorpe, Northampton, Wrexham and Skelmersdale. United winning their first Champions League in their period of dominance with a squad full of home-grown players supplemented with the odd big purchase over several seasons. If we bought a Roy Keane for 4m we didn't buy 4/5 players like that the same or next season - in fact we didn't for another 2 seasons and that was Cole and Ince (2 players) then not for another couple of seasons (I think it was Sharpe). City buy 6 such big money players in one transfer window, having bought 4 such big money players the season before, and 4 the season before that. And this is a club that's had the big money for 10 years so it's not like an immediate attempt to catch up. City will win their first Champions League eventually but its make-up will be entirely different to that mentioned for Livpl or United with probably one proper youth player coming through (Foden). They have 4/5 home-grown players, 4 of which have come from other clubs lol not through their youth set up. I want to stress they can do what they like and we are where we are and good luck to any club that gets the big money takeovers, that isn't the issue in my post (it never was until Lucas raised it) but comparing what's happening now to what the likes of United, Liverpool, Everton, Arsenal did during their periods of success is just not true. Even today these clubs still hold on to the ethos of bringing through youth players because their history of success is engrained this way, which the "new money" clubs don't have - hence the term manufactured.
As I said I get what you are saying Chelsea bought it the new way But they did it 15 years ago When do they get credit ? They have been very successful with their model We have won diddly but have a moral high ground Supposedly I am not going to list the stuff I don’t like cause they are my club and our mistakes but I am sure you know what we have been involved in as have every other club But I have maintained since the start the money city spend doesn’t bother me Ftr you list all the homegrown players Of which none had 100% We both had none local managers Evolution had already began, this is just another stage Anyway this could go on forever I am off to bed
