Off Topic UK / EU Future

Go on say it, it was a chap in the bread queue. !!!

 

Sur les 79 sièges dévolus à la France au Parlement européen, le RN et LREM occuperont tous les deux autant de sièges (23 chacun)
Of the 79 seats allocated to France in the European Parliament, the RN and LREM will both occupy as many seats (23 each)

That looks to me pretty conclusive.

SH: I'm not sure you understand PR. Le Pen has finished up with more seats than Macron.

 

Did he threaten to run back and tell his mum/ wife the naughty lady had more than him.?

 

I'm afraid that it is you that does not understand PR. It is impossible to get exactly 32.4% of the seats ie. exactly corresponding to a percentage of votes (the figure of 32.4% is arbitrary here - it could be anything) - they are always either rounded up or rounded down according to the mathematics of how many seats are on offer. It is always possible for a party to be 1-2% ahead of another but to end up with the same number of seats, and that appears to be the case in France. What is more problematic is that countries are allocated a certain number of seats - ignoring widely differing turnouts in different countries. As a result the Brexit Party has 29 MEPs - based on 31% of a 37% turnout compared to the German Green Party which has 22 MEPs based on 21% of a 61.5% turnout based on a population of nearly 80 million.

 

Have you been overdosing on Sanatogen again? Perhaps you would like to correct yourself?

 

I'm afraid I do.

Not conclusive at all. You conveniently missed out that Le Pen's party will be allocated an extra seat once Brexit is complete. The overwhelming odds are on the far right having more seats in the EU parliament for the vast majority of the next five years.

You should take more notice of the finer details.

 

No, I have corrected your faulty assumption on the forthcoming parliament.

 

The current situation is quite clear, she has the same number of seats as Macron. If and when, which is looking increasingly unlikely, the UK ever leaves she would get an extra seat, but her popularity has actually diminished rather than increased it you look at the figures. Being described here as the night when the far right took a step back, certainly not forward. All of the right wing parties as in the UK suffered, with the Greens getting the number of votes they could only dream about before the election. As in the UK the equivalent of the Tory party were nowhere to be seen. A similar fate fell to the left.

 

I'm surprised the Greens did so well. Honestly thought the Lib Dems would have taken most of the votes from disillusioned labour and Tory voting Remainers.
I wonder who did vote for this those two parties though - hard to imagine many with strong views either way on Brexit would have so maybe it was just party loyalty.

 

Le Pen will have more seats than Macron in the EU parliament after 31st October. The support for Le Pen's far right party has not declined, the actual voting figures represented the polls over the last year or so. The result means the far right dominating French EU business for a continuous 10 year period.

The eurosceptic parties throughout Europe gained many seats and will be a much greater threat to the federalists like Macron. Macron staked his record on the election and was rejected, Le Pen's call for an election should be taken up.

 

That's only if we leave on 31 October. Not entirely convinced we will be.

 

No the voting figures show the decline between the first round of voting in the Presidential election and yesterday. That is the nearest you can get for a direct comparison as it is a multi-party vote. That showed a decline in her support, which is why it is described as a step backwards for her.

 

They won't want to be lectured by Anne Widdecombe for very long !!

 

You can desperately dress her victory up any way you like, she won, Macron failed. Her party continues to dominate the French contingent in Brussels.

 

It would seem that a team of medics are on hand as Corbyn gets down off his fence. " it was clear that the issue would have to be put to the public again in a general election or a public vote." He then goes on to climb back up saying, “The priority at the moment I think is for this government is to call for a general election and actually have a general election so we can decide the future." The last thing that this government is likely to do is call a general election after their showing in the EU poll.

 

true.

 

The number of Eurosceptic MEPs will decrease after 31st of October SH. because 29 Brexit Party MEPs will be leaving. Britains seats will then be reallocated amongst the other countries with some places being kept in reserve in case of new entries into the EU. Those which are reallocated will be done so on the basis of looking at which countries are currently underrepresented because of population change. I do not know how many extra seats France would get, if any, or how they would be allocated. But one thing is clear - the hard right will lose 29 seats because of the departing of Nazi Nige and his cronies.

 

Depends on the DUP - now would probably be a good time to consider withdrawing support...

 

Under your faulty analysis Macron has lost nearly 40% of his previous support, time for him to go.

 

Try comparing like with like.