Well E, obviously. But we’ve shown in this country consistently we don’t give a **** about these elections. I really don’t think anyone can conclude anything about them at all. Brexit will obviously do well as will the Dems and Greens. I wouldn’t conclude from the Green result that the country suddenly gives a **** about plastic straws.
Would you not agree that Brexit added a frisson to these elections that made it extraordinary by comparison to previous EU elections?
For relative extremists on either side, yeah. Projection is for a 37% turnout apparently. If people actually thought these meant anything it would’ve got referendum-level turnout.
I’m no extremist, but I ascribed an importance to these elections. Absent anything tangible, I’m going to assume that there’s an even spread of voter apathy across the board, so the overall outcome remains representative of the national mood.
Lib Dem do very well in London, Labour don’t. Big kicking for Corbyn, stabbed in his homeland. Islington goes Lib Dem. Lib Dem and Green, the unequivocal Remain parties, have a bigger share of the vote than Brexit Party and UKIP (even more so if you add SNP) the no deal parties. What the Tories and Labour stand for is a secret. Maybe the turnout is due to disgust rather than apathy.
The EU elections usually record poor turnouts. If the majority of the electorate was pro-Yerp then surely such elections would’ve been better participated? But, no! Given the passions that have arisen following the referendum why hasn’t the pro-EU electorate risen up to make their point?
In part, yes, but the referendum said a narrow ‘leave’. ‘Remain’ passions were supposed to have been inflamed ever since, so incumbent on them to prove their supposition correct that the nation’s mood has changed materially since 2016. It ain’t.
Given that Brexiters have been betrayed by Parliament for three years why haven’t they taken the chance to turn out in droves to make their disgust evident? Presumably because they don’t trust any politician anymore, even greasy Farage. And I don’t blame them. My conclusion from those who did vote is that they like really simple choices - hard Brexit or stay in.
In reply to this and your previous post, little has changed. If you assume that Lib Dems, Greens, SNP and Labour are broadly Remain and Brexit, UKIP and one other minor party whose name I can't even remember but who claimed to be the party of government, and a strong and stable one at that, are for Brexit the vote is roughly 50:50. That's why calling for a second Referendum in the arrogant belief that the electorate will 'get it right this time' and vote for your preferred option (with 57 to choose from) is a stupid idea. I realise that most politicians get to the point we all reached some time ago. A second Referendum might have had some appeal 2 years ago but surely everyone can see that the longer this stalemate continues while the political parties play GOT at our expense, the more the electorate is likely to feel betrayed. Remains to be seen if anything changes in Westminster among the opposition ranks. Judging by Emily Thornberry's face (sick as a parrot?} this could be the wake up call that Labour needed to send a taxi for Mr Corbyn.
I dunno what all the fuss is about.........half of the posters on here will be “kicking up the daisies” within the next 20 years........enjoy the life you’ve got left comrades.......deaths cold tentacles might becoming for you sooner than you think Now, shall we hold a poll on who’s gonna go first
Interesting result over here in the European elections on the night that the Brexit Party are doing so well over there. Hermann Kelly, Born in Derry and founder of the Irexit party and Nigel's Farage's ex-colleague and buddy was a candidate in the Dublin Constituency and got 2,441 first preference votes out of an electorate of 1m approx. I doubt we will be following our neighbours in exiting the EU based on this particular result. The Greens topped the poll with 23% of the vote.
