Off Topic EU Elections

Good Lord, I’m all in a quandary because folks been saying all brexiteers are racist, homophobic, xenophobic, but mostly racist, quick somebody needs to tell that Muslim fella and the coloured, sorry black fella and what looks like a Chinese or Asian lady that they are at the wrong meeting ‘cause this one is only for brexiteers oops sorry racists !!!!!!

 

This is a point where the EU needs a written constitution which all parties who wish to sit in the Parliament are signed up to. The oath would be made to the EU constitution similar to what happens in the USA. At any rate there is no other democratic parliament which admits members into its midst whose only aim is to disrupt and sabotage, and who are not commited to that parliament in the first place. The drafting of such a constitution should involve the entire population in some way.

 

sinn fein would only have to pretend they cared and they would be allowed into the uk parliament

 

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An easier solution would be to have a referendum on whether we remain part of that organisation, then..........

Oh, wait!

 

Yep.

 

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The EU’s role in the demise of British Steel
Ross Clark

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Ross Clark
22 May 2019

How ironic that British Steel goes into administration on the day before the European elections, putting 4,200 jobs at risk in a leave-voting constituency. And how utterly fatuous to blame Britain’s vote to leave the EU for the failure of the Scunthorpe plant.
There is a link with Brexit, but it is not the one mentioned in passing on BBC news bulletins this morning – that our leaving the EU has frightened off European customers.
If anything, the fall in the pound since 2016 should have helped British Steel, making its exports to the rest of the EU cheaper. But that has not been enough to counter the mass of cheap steel that is coming out of China. The Scunthorpe plant very nearly closed in 2016, when its then owner Tata Steel, decided to jettison it.
In the event it instead sold the plant to private equity group Greybull Capital for £1. What has happened since? Global steel prices have fallen by a further 20 per cent. Does anyone seriously think that a plant that was worth a mere £1 when steep prices were a quarter as high again as they are now would be on a sustainable footing even if we had never voted to leave the EU?
The final trigger for British Steel’s collapse into administration, however, was not low steel prices but arguably a demand from the EU for £120 million worth of payments under its Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) – which is supposed to provide an incentive for heavy polluters to cut their carbon emissions.
Under the scheme, heavy industries which face international competition are given free allowances of carbon credits to meet the EU demands – a circular economy of paper which does rather little to help the planet.
The trouble for British Steel is that while Britain has agreed to remain bound by the ETS until December 2020, the EU has decided to stop issuing free allowances to UK firms – at least until we have voted to ratify the EU withdrawal agreement. In other words, British companies still have to make payments under the ETS scheme, but no longer receive the free carbon credits to help them meet their bills.
Britain’s remaining steel industry, in other words, has been thoroughly stiffed by the EU – and our own government has allowed it to happen by agreeing to remain part of the ETS beyond our agreed departure date from the EU. The UK government agreed to lend British Steel the £120 million to pay the EU, but such debts pile up. And after a while, companies creditors have to ask if they business is still viable – or creditworthy. After the bailout for the ETS, even the FT was advising the government not to “throw good money after bad.”
Staying in the EU wouldn’t have saved Scunthorpe, but the feeble, submissive manner of our negotiations has certainly dealt the final blow. If there is a lesson to be learned it is the lengths to which the EU will go in order to punish a member which votes to leave – and that we need a complete break from EU institutions as quickly as possible

 

Just a reminder for anyone thinking of voting for Farage's Party. This is the EU election and you are voting for the block called the 'Europe of freedom and direct democracy' - this is the group where the Brexit Party sits - which has 42 MEPs and includes the Five Star Movement and the German AfD. Judge a man by the company he keeps ! Even Marine le Pen is not in this group because they are so right wing.

 

Andrea Leadsom resigns. Could be a stampede to follow her

 

Well at least that gives May something to celebrate with her nightcap.

 

She's long past the point of no return. Any normal person would resign and take a holiday. Interesting that Leadom signed her resignation letter in Brexit Party turquoise

 

Stop with the crap.

A vote for the Brexit party at this time is a protest vote. Nothing more nothing less.

 

In your head it might be but in black and white it’s many things including this.

 

All these sly accusations stink of desperation .
Oslo and Stroller liked your post.
They are huge fans of Corbyn, a known anti semite and supporter of terrorists.
Does that mean, by your criteria, that Oslo and Stroller believe the same things?

 

Nope. Pure bullshit.

 

No, mate, it’s a cold fact. How you interpret your own vote doesn’t matter a jot.

 

I'm not your mate.
How I interpret my vote is everything.
You are stating opinion as "cold fact" as usual.

 

For the record, I'm not a huge fan of Corbyn. I'm an old-school Labour supporter who was delighted when Corbyn was elected leader and moved the party to the left, away from the Tory-lite Blairite tendency. I happen to believe that he has now become a liability, partly because of his failure to deal adequately with anti-Semitism in the party (he himself is not an anti-Semite), but more because of his refusal to follow his party's wishes and properly oppose Brexit. I would be happy enough for another left-winger to take the reins, preferably McDonnell. I like Tom Watson, but fear that he would not be radical enough.

 

It’s not an opinion. I don’t choose who Farage aligns himself to. You do choose to align yourself to Farage. You don’t do facts, Col.

Of course I’m your mate.

 

What’s your own background, Strolls?