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The Official Man Utd & Liverpool plus Chelsea, Everton and City Banter Thread!

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by UIR - Kagawa Powa, Jul 21, 2011.

  1. BCR

    BCR Well-Known Member

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    who? :)

    btw, anytime you lot want to stop scoring copious amounts of goals that would be great thanks...
     
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  2. tunns®

    tunns® I'm a camp pirate

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    nah tell that to our noisy neighbours they started it!


    .... and we'll finish it , anything they can do we'll do better:) ... and at half the price!
     
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  3. The_Post_That_Made_Terry_Cry

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    Their is contentious decisions that go against all teams, Daglish is bottling it already He'll soon be off again the little hobbit.
     
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  4. Jonesey

    Jonesey Well-Known Member

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    ^^^^Twat
     
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  5. BCR

    BCR Well-Known Member

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    Or he is just trying to get us a bit more calls in the future, mind games I think you may call them.

    SAF is doing the exact same type of thing with this...... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14854142.stm

    KK is trying to, for future games, throw our weight around and try to get a few more calls here and there. SAF does it, Mourinho does it, a lot of coaches do it.
     
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  6. KingEric07.

    KingEric07. cape wearing twat

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    Exactly.

    That's what he's doing. Just trying to get some decisions in the future.

    On a side note though, I'm please to see Carragher get pulled up for one of those rugby type tackles he always seems to get away with ( albeit this one wasn't one of the worst he has done ).
     
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  7. BCR

    BCR Well-Known Member

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    Either way you look at it, we had the chances to score and didn't Stoke were throwing their bodies everywhere blocking shots and it just didn't fall for us. On the other side of Luck, Rooney and Hernandez both had balls deflect right to them on the weekend, how the cookie crumbles sometimes.
     
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  8. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    It's people like you that make the world go round. Not because of anything other than the bereft nature of your intellect. You brain-dead f..kwit. Next...........................
     
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  9. Swarbs

    Swarbs Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Fair enough - didn't see those Bolton ones. But the only contentious ones in the Arsenal game were the ones that went for Liverpool!

    You did have a fair bit of luck with deflections. There was that cross palmed out by Begovic that landed at Suarez's feet, and those five shots in a row, each of which deflected back to the feet of a Liverpool player. On another day one of those shots would have gone in, but on another day entirely Henderson's first shot would have bounced away to safety and the move would have ended. And the punch right at the death that again landed at Suarez' feet and he put it wide.
     
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  10. BCR

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    Ya, I guess my point was, and it has been happening the past few games, is we don't convert on these. United have been lethal about punishing any defensive error, against Sunderland, Bolton, and Stoke we were not as lethal as we should have been and bar Bolton, should have come away with two more wins and been higher up the table. Hopefully it changes soon as I want us to crush Spurs!!!
     
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  11. Chief

    Chief Northern Simpleton Forum Moderator

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    RHC, a little aside here.

    I'm sure I saw you mention the cricket once so going into the last game today 3 points behind Warwicks, do you think we will finally get rid of the hoodoo and win the county championship?

    My money is on will we ****. We'll blow it as per usual.
     
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  12. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    What was contentious?
     
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  13. Swarbs

    Swarbs Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    That, to me, is why it will take Liverpool a few more years to make a major title challenge. Games like Sunderland and Stoke are the ones that the champions will win, even if reffing errors, form or other factors are against them. They will find a way to win it somehow and that will make the difference at the end of the season. Arsenal's ability to beat Swansea despite not playing particularly well is one of the reasons I still have Arsenal as slight favourites for 4th spot.

    The first goal. A player in an offside position is not allowed to interfere with an opposition player. Suarez was in an offside position when Meireles played the ball forwards and it was his pressure on Miquel that led to the OG. Ergo offside. It was a marginal call, but from every replay I've seen he looked like being offside. The second goal was also marginal - could've been called either way but on the whole I think that one wasn't offside.
     
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  14. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    the International Football Association Board decreed a number of seasons ago that unless a player touches the ball then he is not interfering with play.

    <ok>
     
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  15. Swarbs

    Swarbs Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    The IFAB also decided that:

    "Interfering with an opponent means preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent&#8217;s line of vision or movements or making a gesture or movement which, in the opinion of the referee, deceives or distracts an opponent."

    Suarez prevented Miquel from being able to play the ball by challenging him for it, thus distracting him. Therefore, whilst he was not interfering with play, he was interfering with an opponent and was thus offside. The same rationale would apply if a player stood right in front of the goalkeeper whilst a shot was taken - even if they didn't touch the ball they would still be offside by virtue of interfering with the opponent. It is confusing, what with all pundits blindly focusing on interfering with play, but he was offside.

    In fact, this situation is explicitly stated to be offside in diagram 9 on page 108 of the current laws of the game:

    http://ar.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/generic/81/42/36/lawsofthegame_2011_12e.pdf
     
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  16. Zingy

    Zingy #ziggywould

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    Fact of the day...

    No side has ever won the Premier League after scoring more than 11 goals in their opening four matches, 9 teams have done this. <ok>
     
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  17. Skylarker

    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    <yikes>

    Any chance of a recap from yesterdays fact of the day?
     
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  18. Zingy

    Zingy #ziggywould

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    You mean the one that cost us the game...I see where your going with this. <ok>
     
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  19. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Never knew that.
     
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  20. Skylarker

    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    You ****er, I forgot about that <yikes>

    Do you want the punishment now or later?
     
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