theres EU rules to stop it happening. You are right though but you can add real and barca to the list as well... and maybe cheslea... if vvd and alisson were really offered 300k per week to join those 4 or 5 clubs i doubt they'd be at anfield this year.
one quick comment re city 2018/19 Manchester city 2017/18 Manchester City 2016/17 Chelsea 2015/16 Leicester City 2014/15 Chelsea 2013/14 Manchester City 2012/13 Manchester United 2011/12 Manchester City 2010/11 Manchester United 2009/10 Chelsea 2008/09 Manchester United 2007/08 Manchester United 2006/07 Manchester United 2005/06 Chelsea 2004/05 Chelsea 2003/04 Arsenal 2002/03 Manchester United 2001/02 Arsenal 2000/01 Manchester United 1999/00 Manchester United 1998/99 Manchester United 1997/98 Arsenal 1996/97 Manchester United 1995/96 Manchester United 1994/95 Blackburn Rovers (big money backing) 1993/94 Manchester United 1992/93 Manchester United tuis is just my opinion but even if we then go back another 20 years you'd find similar story. Utd dominated early prem years, only a couple of "shocks" including arsenal. then big money came in with ambramvich and the worm turned but it took a while cos ambramovich was a mad **** who sacked good managers madly but before long up pops an even bigger shark and bit off cheslea's head. Just cos city won in a canter and have a lot of money doesnt mean the likes of Leicester can never happen. the utd era is over. the city era has begun.... but.... sustaining that each and every year is unrealistic If we look at the spanish league where two mega clubs bash into each other 2017-18 FC Barcelona 2016–17 Real Madrid 2015–16 FC Barcelona 2014–15 FC Barcelona 2013–14 Atlético Madrid 2012–13 FC Barcelona 2011–12 Real Madrid 2010–11 FC Barcelona 2009–10 FC Barcelona 2008–09 FC Barcelona 2007–08 Real Madrid 2006–07 Real Madrid Barca are not all dominant. Real madrdi have even one a title or two over past 10 years. Even once atletico broke them both. the point is this............ city won't just dominate, won't get every transfer right and guardiola won't manage them forever, kompany aguero, silva and fernandiinho won't last much longer. Inevitably that 100 points level will drop back. Its just a matter of where and when and who is there to take advantage
PL CL FA Cup League Cup Super Cup, like the Charity Shield is all very nice and all to put in your trophy cabinet, but is a meaningless show-piece event and not a serious competition.
Completely unfair talking about the Community Shield and the Super Cup as the same. You don't even need to win anything to get into the Community Shield. In fact in 1971, Leicester played against Liverpool just because Arsenal who won the double wanted to go on #preseason tour instead. To play the Super Cup you need to have won either the CL or EL, which means beating CL teams either way.
I can see how the fans/punters will be totally disinterested in the title winners (assumed tobe City) and focus all their attention and interest in the battle for Cl (2, 3rd and 4th) and Europa places and relegation. City winning everything in a canter could be a negative for them in the longer term. That tight finish could have been the best thing that could have happened for them
From what I can tell the english legue has been largely dominated by 3 teams over past 20 years with the odd other team (mostly arsenal) thrown in. Its been a spend fest... so whats really changed mate? First utd for a long time then arsenal came at them with two separate teams years apart then cheslea were seen off by utd then city then city faded and cheslea came back and now its city in ascendancy. Spain has been barca and real for 20 years with just the one title in the last 10 years not going to them and then another major 10 year gap back to rafa's valencia... and always has it been thus... its only getting worse there too And italy is worse 8 juve in a row!. then it was inter before that.. but again its got way worse. Holland... al lot of ajx and psv but SOMe other teams winning things France 6 of last 7.. will by 7 of 8 are PSG. frankly the one win was a miracle and it was tron apart by sharks... not least PSG itself. Germany 6 in a row and prob 7 by bayern with 2 dortmund wins by klopp like....... this has been going on for years upon years. teams like arsenal have been quite happy to be 4th for years upon years
question: would you rather a) 2nd and 97 points with CL final or b) 3rd or 4th on 75 points and an FA cup run to final and a CL final? just wondering at this point looking back.
... You are wondering about the path of least regret I think most people would say a). But I would also say it depends on the outcome . If we get 2 trophies including a CL and an FAC surely that's better than potentially one. 97 points and second was a great run but if you look at it coldly the outcome is no better than 3 or 4. There is no extra benefit in coming 2nd than 4th apart from some extra cash.
Interesting, good points and I agree you should be looking to win every competition. That doesn't mean you play your best 11 in the first round of the League Cup, but you should be putting out a team capable of beating the opposition you are facing at any particular stage. The original question was which is the biggest competition? So I don't think any of us should base it on personal preference because we'll get an unlimited number of different personal preferences. I believe it should be how the majority of fans from different "tiers" of clubs would measure success? Hear me out for a minute... (Assuming The European Cup and CL are the same thing) Top tier imo will always be most League titles first and then CL then FA Cups then Europy e.g. in now particular order clubs like United, Liverpool, Arsenal. 2nd tier - Chelsea, City, Everton, Aston Villa because they're next highest with number of league titles, then the number of European Cup/CL, then FA Cups then Europy. Then at some point we get to the tier where clubs DON'T have League titles and won't have The European Cup. So how do they measure success? I bet you anything most would look at number of FA Cups first. The other reason why I don't believe The European Cup/CL shouldn't be above The League title is because that would stick Arsenal below Aston Villa and Nottingham Forest. Clearly that can't be right for a club that's won 13 league titles compared to a club that's won half the number of League titles and another that's only won 1 league title. It gets a bit tricky when you get to UEFA Cup. You could say a club that's won 4 FA Cups and 1 UEFA Cup is more successful than a club that's won 5 FA Cups. But then you could reverse that and say a club that's won 4 UEFA Cups and 1 FA Cup is more successful than a club that's won 5 UEFA Cups? So for me it comes down to which cup most clubs would regard as having greater prestige for winning it. And imo that would be the FA Cup simply because of its history and prestige in club football in this country.
Right up until you stop being insular and realise the fa cup isn't all that to the rest of the planet cos we've killed it. I'd say Nobody in Asia gives a crap due the time its on in middle of their night
It's an impossible question if you open it up to the whole world because there are far too many variables. I've stated all along I'm looking at it for clubs in this country. There's plenty to consider there whether you're Liverpool or Sunderland which is what I've posted about.
I actually prefer the league cup these days. There is less dross and Its put midweek win or bust right there and then and if you do well you are in a final by February.
So complicated. If you want an idea of how successful a club has been over a longer term, such as 10 years in this case, just look here: https://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/revenue/
Doesn't tell us order of importance of cups - or how they perceive them to be important. UEFA coefficients
CL is most important. So first look at this table. If you don't find your club, it's crap and you can start squabling over number of cups with other supporters of #nomarks
That wasn’t the option? It was 4th and fa cup and CL or 2nd with 97 points and CL. Obviously is tather wint the league or CL over the league cup and fa cup
