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Off Topic Game of Thrones - (MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS)

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Spook, Apr 25, 2016.

  1. Asterix

    Asterix Well-Known Member

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    What started out as a trilogy in the story plot sent to his publishers, became the series of five books, well, seven as you mention. You and I both, we ain't going to see the finished story in print. Its possible, but not written by George he's not your bitch Martin.
     
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  2. Leon T Trout AFC

    Leon T Trout AFC Well-Known Member

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    Re: Northern armies going ape a la Russian soldiers in Berlin May '45.


    1. They're soldiers who have lived through years of oppression at the hands of the south - axe to grind in the capital?
    2. They've been fighting for an age against the living dead and more - perhaps have lost their moral compass?
    3. It was hand-to-hand street-by-street combat - apart from the loathsome gender attrocities, the kill or be killed aspect must have run high
    4. Plus confusion. Much much confusion.
    5. It wasn't all of them, just the ****ed up ones?



     
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  3. Quill

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    To be honest, in hindsight I forgot a lot of the Northern armies are probably made up of characters who were already ****ed up, there have been plenty of Northern characters in the series who were just horrible people. IIRC Brienne's first encounter with Stark soldiers almost ended up in her getting raped.

    Also this is the same set of people who cheered Ned Stark's execution. They probably don't give a **** about them.
     
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  4. Mr Hatem

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    How do you do Spoiler boxes on here?
     
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  5. Leon T Trout AFC

    Leon T Trout AFC Well-Known Member

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    Not sure the 'official way' but, when replying to a message that is a spoiler, you can see the code (or whatever it is called) - it's in square brackets.

    So I just copied the first part, then added my message, then ended by copying the second part (closing) part of the code.

    Probably a much easier way to do it though.
     
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    please log in to view this image
     
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    Exactly they've been fighting KL for years. It seems more likely to they'd rape and sack the City rather than come in as heroic liberators. Throughout history there are countless cases of armies sack their OWN towns on liberating them back from an enemy army.

    As you and other said it was a really BIG episode with a lot happening but for me at least it felt fairly we paced. Well as much as it can be in 6 episodes to wrap everything up.

    It seems likely to me that after witnessing the destruction wrought in the small people by Daenerys that Ayra will seek to kill her. Ayra has spent more time living among the people than any of the other nobles . Ayra for Queen?
     
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  8. Quill

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    Agreed, the pacing in this episode was great, but since the start of season 7 overall the pacing has been way too fast. Still enjoyed it of course, it just could've and should've stayed as 10 episode seasons, with last season having the Battle of Winterfell closing it and this season solely focusing on Cersei as the big bad.

    Arya's definitely gunning for Dany now (mentioned it in my stupidly long post on the previous page), but there's no chance she's ever going to be Queen, she would want the throne about as Jon does. I can see her leaving Westeros at the end - she mentioned previously that she wants to see what is west of Westeros, I can imagine her going to do that.

    In terms of the throne, I see it going one of two ways:
    • They get rid of the throne and Westeros is ruled by council, probably with someone like Sansa or Bran at the head of it. I would say Tyrion should be a part of said council, but I'll be surprised if he survives.
    • Jon usurps Dany and becomes a reluctant king.
    No matter what, there's no chance Dany is surviving now, she is absolutely done for. I hope it is the latter of my two predictions, as I want to see Jon just go back North, where he belongs, whether that be as Warden of the North or just to leave everything behind and live with the Wildlings.

     
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    Thanks Leon
    It was like 13-15th Feb 1945, the firebombing of Dresden.
     
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  10. pierredelafranchesca

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    Personally, I think the appropriate way to end it would be with Dany on the Throne ruling through fear and people conspiring against her / looking to go to war with her. I think it would be apt that the 'game of thrones' never finishes, but just resets and restarts as there will always be people seeking vengeance and plots to remove the king/queen. Long shot theory that she is PG by Jon, and that they unhappily marry to join houses and heal the rifts of the land temporarily.

    Realistically though, there's too much time left over the final episode for that to happen, as there are so few main players left in the story following the recent purging. I like the idea of Arya knacking Dany, but kind of feel like her big moment was taking the night king out, I think in the end it may be Jon who kills her.
     
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    Personally, I think the appropriate way to end it would be with Dany on the Throne ruling through fear and people conspiring against her / looking to go to war with her. I think it would be apt that the 'game of thrones' never finishes, but just resets and restarts as there will always be people seeking vengeance and plots to remove the king/queen. Long shot theory that she is PG by Jon, and that they unhappily marry to join houses and heal the rifts of the land temporarily.

    Realistically though, there's too much time left over the final episode for that to happen, as there are so few main players left in the story following the recent purging. I like the idea of Arya knacking Dany, but kind of feel like her big moment was taking the night king out, I think in the end it may be Jon who kills her.
     
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  12. pierredelafranchesca

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    Personally, I think the appropriate way to end it would be with Dany on the Throne ruling through fear and people conspiring against her / looking to go to war with her. I think it would be apt that the 'game of thrones' never finishes, but just resets and restarts as there will always be people seeking vengeance and plots to remove the king/queen. Long shot theory that she is PG by Jon, and that they unhappily marry to join houses and heal the rifts of the land temporarily.

    Realistically though, there's too much time left over the final episode for that to happen, as there are so few main players left in the story following the recent purging. I like the idea of Arya knacking Dany, but kind of feel like her big moment was taking the night king out, I think in the end it may be Jon who kills her.
     
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    Ah, yes a repeating, deja vue esqe, cycle. Both your posts and contents. But have a like for them.
     
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  14. Quill

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    Which one do you want me to respond to Pierre? <laugh>

    I think that the 'game of thrones' does end, but at the cost of pretty much everything that came before. That's just as apt. Also it fits more into the idea of a bittersweet ending - if Dany just rules as a mad queen, regardless of whether Jon is by her side or not, there's no 'sweet' in that at all. At this point, no ending that involves Dany surviving and/or ruling can have any positives in it, and they've always said that the ending is at least somewhat positive.

    There's no way Jon and Dany can reconcile after what just happened. He will want nothing to do with this going forward, and I think he will kill Dany, just say "**** this", let Sansa rule the North and go live with the Wildlings.
     
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  15. pierredelafranchesca

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    Kinell.... How did they post 3 times.
     
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  16. Asterix

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    I have no idea of the ending and also avoiding leaks and spoilers. Any minor gripes I had, the reveal to the other Stark children being one. Children? A fookin assassin, a scheming bitch and a youth who gets his kicks plugging himself into a tree. Yep, marriage to a pyromaniac, or go home to his siblings, **** that where's Tormund got to with me wolf. I'm off.
     
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    The reveal, the audience knew Jon's true parentage, so yes no need to reiterate the fact. Brienne and Jaime, not necessary. Pure fan service and the whole set up was cringeworthy. Tyrion is better than that. On dialogue, I really wanted those elephants, ffs cack. But I am enjoying the series more than most if you tube and reviews and comments are to go by.
     
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  18. Quill

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    I get the feeling a lot of people are complaining for the sake of it, and are annoyed that what they wanted to happen isn't what they're getting.

    The irony is that they would've loved this same episode they're hating on if it was in a less rushed season, even if it was the exact same plotwise.

    Also, I hope they aren't expecting different from GRRM, because he's definitely 100% going to go Mad Queen as well, is he ever actually releases his books.

    If people rewatched earlier seasons in the same nitpicky negative-as-**** way they're watching this one, they'd hate them too.

    ****, on some social media some people are now going back and saying everything since Season 4 finished was ****. What the ****, so it wasn't **** until this season? Episodes like Hardhome and Battle of the Bastards are **** now? Get to ****, stop taking a tv show so ****ing seriously.

    I get people being upset - I think it has definitely been rushed - but the extent to which people are just absolutely hating on the show is ****ing childish and petty and just plain sad.
     
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  19. Amin Yapusi

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    Bron kills Dany.

    Renly Baratheon takes the throne.

    Sorry not sorry.
     
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  20. Amin Yapusi

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    The Big Bang grand finale series hasn’t lived up to what came before. Hardly any real shocks, huge build ups fizzled out. I think they’ve got it all wrong, this final season is screaming typical Hollywood Disney visual fx showcase production.

    On the flip side my missus has holly oaks on and I think I’ve just witnessed the worst piece of tv ever created <laugh>
     
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