He will have been at City 3 seasons and won the title twice ... the marked improvement in Raheeem Sterling since he arrived at Citeh is pure coincidence? ... as is the fact that he now holds the record for most consecutive league wins in each of the Spanish, German and English top divisions ... seriously mate .... you may not like the guy but you can't seriously put everything down to luck and the size of the cheque book?
Few contenders. Klopp obviously, even given he’s been allowed to spend a lot he’s still built a top side. Poch for achieving what he has with the resources at his disposal. Dick Emery, for selling us Lucas Moura. Cheers mate! Espírito Santo, for building a very good and competitive Wolves side.
He may be overrated ... but his managerial achievements are not all down to pure luck and cheque book power... if that was all that was needed then Chelsea would have won loads more
Two things, I never mentioned the word luck and I never said I disliked him. I just think (know actually) his achievements are over stated given the outlay of cash in buying player after player after player. I know all clubs buy, Klopp spent an absolute shed load on his missing pieces of the jigsaw in Alison and Van Dijk, but no one spends on the same scale as Pep has. In a direct comparison between the two, I rate Klopp's higher, which was surely the OP's question, right? I'll give you Sterling, he's improved. Is it genius to 'improve' a player by buying two £50 million pound players for every team position, or is it the fact he's playing with better players all around him? That City play a better brand of football is without question, that is undeniable and down to Guardiola. What happened to Stones though? Or Otamendi? Or Jesus? Why haven't they improved under this genius? They haven't, they been replaced. Or someone already there has come back into the side to take their spot.
Pep ... meh. To quote Alan Sugar on another manager 'I'd like to see how bloody special he is down at Leyton Orient' Klopp has to be a contender, although he's also spent a truck load of cash Poch, not for me. He's lost 13 games in the PL. Can't be the best PL manager. Simples. I'd give it to Nuno Santo. What he's done with Wolves this season is nothing short of remarkable. Especially given that it's their first season back in the PL.
Consecutive league wins as in consecutive match wins, not titles? Pep’s the best manager in the world, undeniably. It doesn’t matter what he’s spent, his first XI that will probably win this league, probably cost less than ours did. Ederson Zinchenko Kompany Laporte Walker Fernandinho Gundogan/B Silva D Silva Sterling Sane Aguero About £400m Uniteds cost about that and we have Rashford in ours who cost nowt. Anybody who reckons money alone has got him where he is needs to take a look at United and understand that money usually brings you a team full of ****ers if you don’t have somebody to train them well. We employed one of the biggest dickheads the sport has ever seen who brought the worst out in every player.
What that doesn't show is all the players who cost in the region of €50million plus who aren't in that team(above), many of whom he didn't buy and were much cheaper anyway. Stones, Otamandi, Mendy, Jesus, Mahrez, Danilo. That's more or less another €300 million right there, all Pep purchases. The man you correctly identify as a twat didn't have that, nowhere near it. He also had to rely on players from Fergie's last team, as Ole is having to now. He inherited a mess from van Gaal, Pep inherited a very, very decent recently title winning squad. Pep is undoubtedly a great coach but this idea he improves all his players is massively over stated.
not forgetting aguero, kompany, d silva were world class before him and been long term stalwarts of the club. United had De Gea, mike smalling and phil jones
And tbh him not spending at Barca is a myth anyway. They were something like 2nd or 3rd highest spenders in Europe in his first 2/3 seasons there. In his first two seasons alone he splashed out £180m (when £180m was a lot!). When you add that to the players you mentioned, it's not like he's not had an easier ride than most managers.
He does. He kicks out the **** ones and spends tons of money getting improvements, then repeats it until it works.
Everyone mentions Sterling. I fully accept Sterling has improved, some down to Pep and a lot down to the team around him. How come Henderson, Trent Alex A and Robertson, for instance, aren't acknowledged as being improved by Klopp, because they clearly have been?
