If the ref did not see the punch to the back of the neck Kerma should be charged by the FA. If he did see it and took no action he should be sacked as that could have had a far worse outcome than a broken leg
I've also been saying this. Our players love talking so much ****, and this isn't just from this season, go back to when we capitulated under Harry, we had players talking of a power shift with Arsenal when we were like 10+ points in front only to finish below them at the end of the season. When we were challenging Leicester, we had players posting photos and comments about fox hunting and challenging them, only to end up third. Now we've had players talking about the title to now being on a very possible path to being out of the top four if we lose our final game. Just wish they'd shut the **** up UNTIL they've actually achieved something. We're in no position to speak, boast or brag. For all our improvement under Poch and other managers (namely Jol and Harry) we've won **** all unless you count the League Cup under Ramos. It's about time these players just get their heads down and focus on the football, rather than bigging themselves up to journos or on social media talking a big game only to then bottle it at the final hurdle. And it'll wean out out the plastics, every cloud and all that.
Us lot on transfer deadline day looking for a new signing: please log in to view this image Then seeing GKN, Aurier and Janssen in training photos the day after: please log in to view this image
I've just dropped a battery drill onto a glass topped coffee table and smashed the mo fo to bits, rub it in why don't ya
I think the point is that the discussion needs to be more balanced. If the ref contributed to our problems then it should be mentioned, it's as if we're only allowed to "blame" ourselves and no other opinion is allowed. I've heard very little else as if the ref and the opposition have nothing to do with it. When things go badly in general you get nothing but talk of disaster, complaint and blame, probably to a greater extent than when we do well. At those times there is no mention of us being 3rd in the league or in the semi-final of the CL, as if good things don't count, only bad, as if they are the fluke and the bad things are the norm. Well I saw us relegated and I can tell you that things can be far worse than this. I'm not saying we had a good performance, just feel obliged to try and balance out all this negativity. We have been poor in recent games but clearly other teams have been equally poor or we wouldn't still be 3rd would we? We have every chance to win on Wednesday, we have every chance of top 4. Thinking about getting out of here, it's bad enough to deal with the defeat, worse to read all this crap.
I read that wrong and thought that you had dropped your drill on to a glass on top of your coffee table, so it could be worse, I thought you spilled your whisky.
Oh for goodness sake, it never rains. Sorry to hear that Alfie. I'm just wondering whether we'll end this series of 1-0's with a thumping win.
I agree with you Vim. We know that this is the reaction we always get on not606 after a defeat. It's perhaps the nature of football fans, especially maybe Spurs fans, who like to see themselves as hard done by. The reality as I see it is that today we were unlucky, the ref was intimidated by the crowd, very visibly IMO. What we had before the contentious decisions was a fast very open game where tackles were flying in fast and Spurs were clearly overwhelming Bournemouth. Their reaction was to go in hard and try to stop our momentum. Despite this we created numerous chances and Bournemouth were only saved by some inspired keeping from their debutante goalie. We could very easily be 3 or 4 up at this point. The ref was allowing dubious tackling from Bournemouth to go unquestioned and Spurs players began to complain. The Dier incident which again people are so sure about is far from clear. The Son incident was outrageous IMO because Son was pushed and battered before he finally cracked and retaliated. and so on. This ref was not in control and he reacted as the crowd started howling. He seems to have issued quite a few red cards this season and to me that's a sign of weakness in him. So no I don't see this as the product of lack of desire to win, quite the opposite from Spurs in fact. As I said before the ref ruined this game.
I have no idea what I have said to get that response mate. My point was that TODAY the ref did not contribute. The mess was all of our own making. I too remember relegation. I rememember being battered 7 nil away to Liverpool and 5 nil at home to Arsenal on our return. I remember tsking 3 matches to beat non lesgue Altringham in the FA Cup in 1979. Then there was the humiliating defeat to Port Vale in 1988. And the less said about the 1990s and early 2000s as a whole the better. I go when ever I can ... I never boo or have digs at players at games. I defend our players like Trippier and Lloris as I think they are running on empty. But today I think that the team got what they deserved as it was (imo) an unprofessional and undisciplined display until we went down to 9 men. If you wish to have a go at someone for "all the negativity" you have missed the target as badly as our players have in the past 5 matches.
Genuine question: last season Norbert sacked off the league to go all-in on winning the CL, and it appears that Emery is sacking off the league to win the EL like Steptonho did a couple of seasons before So yeah, my question is whether Poch has noticed we can secure CL qualification without risking it all on winning the CL?
Late to the party today.... My tuppence worth.... No matter how **** the ref was, we were UNPROFESSIONAL. None of the other top 6 clubs would have capitulated today in that fashion. Yes, maybe we didn't get the run of decisions, but we just didn't deserve it. We had 4 or 5 clear chances in that first half that could and should have put the game to bed. We didn't take one and then overreacted. And as for Dele, I'm beginning to wonder whether he will ever recover the form of the last few years. Rant over....
Well clearly other top 6 clubs (not the top 2) have played as badly as this or they would have overtaken us a few matches ago. This is not just a problem with us or have we been crap and our competitors been unlucky? Don't you see this is the opposite way round to the way supporters used to think?
So Man U , Chelsea and Arsenal have all played consistently well this season. They must have some very bad luck then.
I am convinced that alot of the anger and negativity is borne of frustration. Whilst no one has a divine right to win matches - if we are the top team we are aspiring to be we should be making a better fist of matches against the likes of Bournemouth, Burnley and Southampton than we have done in this recent run of away defeats. Even 3 draws from those matches would have us guaranteed in 3rd. Losing 13 league matches in a season, 1 more than Wolves, 4 more than United who have been in disarray, (and only 3 less than the spammers ffs) is just not good enough. Many of the reasons have been detailed here by many of us so many times that I will not drag it all up again. But we must learn lessons from this season if we are going to progress. On a final note (and this is not a dig), but today was a perfect example of why we miss Harry Kane, no press against 1 inexperienced CB and 1 who was clearly struggling with injury and we put them under no pressure. Harry would have given Cook no respite whereas our players allowed him an easy time of it. Lets hope we have a couple of performances in the locker for our remaining matches, but I saw nothing today that would encourage me for Wednesday night, but then again I saw nothing in the Brighton match that suggested we would get through v City and we did.
I wasn't talking about the last 2 months, which we - and fortunately - our competition have failed to negotiate. I was talking about the performance today and most importantly the lack of discipline that led to one of the most embarrassing defeats we've had. I can't recall too many times when a 'top' side have imploded so dramatically against a lower half side. But maybe you can remember one...
