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Have any Cambridge or Oxford graduates gone on to play in the Premier League?

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  1. Hefty fullback

    Hefty fullback Well-Known Member

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    I followed Dempsey when he went back to the MLS. That first year Yedlin came in as rookie RB. The second year Dylan Remick came in as a rookie LB.

    Dylan Remick is from Inverness Illinois, where the median household income is $142k. He attended Loyala academy, which is known for education, athletics and a $15k annual tuition.

    My daughter played them once [Loyola] in a basketball tournament. Everyone of the parents was an assistant referee, annoying as hell, but it showed a level of commitment to the sport.

    At Loyola, Dylan's 1600 meter relay team qualified for the state finals. He was also a CB on the soccer team.

    He went on to play soccer in the Ivy league at Brown University, the same time Emma Watson was there. He was converted to full back and was selected as a second team all-american after Brown went to the Sweet 16 in the NCAA tournament. Both are rare achievements from an Ivy league school.

    Upon graduation, he is drafted by the Seattle Sounders, and is on a salary of about $55k/yr. After 4 years and 44 appearances, he moves on to Houston for $105k/yr. His first year at Houston, he makes 14 appearances and scores his first MLS goal. His second year, he suffers a concussion in pre-season. He was placed on the season ending injury list. The option for his third year was not picked up, and Dylan Remick retired from soccer.

    The thing of it is, Dylan was a pre-med major at Brown. He'd most assuredly be a second year resident physician by now, just a couple of years away from $200k+/yr. and making a meaningful contribution to society.

    I think the soccer gig was a tragic waste of time. My son disagrees. What do you think?
     
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    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Don't think so. The effort required to get to premier league football generally rules out people who go down the path of academia.
     
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    The Norton Cat Well-Known Member

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    Not in the Premier League era, no. (Although as an aside, it is worth noting that Jamie Roberts, the Welsh International Rugby Union Centre (currently playing for Bath) played for Cambridge University a couple of years ago in the varsity game while studying alongside his professional career).

    In Association Football, there have been a few UK footballers who have studied at University before become professional footballers (Steve Coppell, Iffy Onuoura for example) but none that I know of who attended Oxford or Cambridge. Not in the professional era at least.

    You have to go a long way back to before Association Football (as distinct from Rugby Football) became professional. One of the most notable footballers to be an Oxbridge graduate was C. B. Fry. He played in a FA Cup Final for Southampton (as an amateur), he played for the famous amateur side Corinthian (still in existence today as Corinthian-Casuals), he also played first class cricket for Hampshire and Sussex and won university blues at football, cricket and athletics.

    As Association Football began as an upper class pastime, there are several more. Things all changed when professionalism was allowed in top class British sport, which is a long and very complicated subject. One notable university educated (although not Oxford or Cambridge) Edwardian player is our very own Leigh Richmond Roose.

    One of the most notable educated footballers of recent years is Socrates. A qualified medical doctor and a PhD in philosophy. (Coincidentally, Socrates played for Corinthians FC in Brazil who got their name from the famous amateur side, Corinthian, who C.B. Fry played for).

    I can recommend loads of books on these subjects if you're interested.
     
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    Nads Well-Known Member

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    Wasn’t Jody Craddock a graduate?
     
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    The Norton Cat Well-Known Member

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    I believe he was. There's another one.
     
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    Nads Well-Known Member

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    He was from Cambridge and played for them as well, so he’s a maybe.
     
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    Duncan Watmore has a first class honours in economics from Newcastle / Manchester.
     
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    Jody was playing for Christchurch before Cambridge Utd picked him up so I reckon he might have been at Bournemouth or somewhere.
    And another one!
     
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    Jack TheLad Well-Known Member

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    I know a lot are heading to uni after their careers are finished. Mainly lads lower down the leagues who will need a career after football.

    Like Disco says most higher level players are full time by the time they're in the teens so dont have the opportunity to study.

    There is also the issue that a lot of footballers are thick as pig ****.
     
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  10. The Norton Cat

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    Lisandro Magallan at Boca Juniors has done a law degree in his spare time while following a career as a professional footballer. That was a stipulation of his lawyer father for him pursuing a football career. That's all on 'Boca Juniors Confidential' on Netflix which is quite a good watch.

    I'm not sure if you're an ex-pat and familiar with the way things work in the UK @Hefty fullback (so forgive me if this comes across as patronising) but university education is, as you can see, a bit unusual for professional footballers in the UK. There is quite a big cultural difference in the routes into professional sport in the UK to that of the States. We don't have the sporting scholarship system that you have and university sports are nowhere near as big (in fact its not even comparable), with perhaps the exception of the boat race.
     
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    Pat Nevin, University ofGlasgow. Jack Ross too, but post-playing. Iain Dowie another I recall having a degree, which I remember for him being that person you'd have thought had an economic or engineering degree after starring in the Goonies.

    ..and there is a Cambridge graduate who played the game: Steve Palmer, a name we all know??!

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....2012/jan/11/the-knowledge-footballers-degrees
     
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  12. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    Was a good watch that, he plays for Ajax now so it’s worked out nice for him.
     
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    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    I heard Joey Barton has finally graduated from playing with his balls, to being a staff member.
     
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  14. Hefty fullback

    Hefty fullback Well-Known Member

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    On another thread, you mentioned that you would like to see Pinnock at CB for us next year. Seems others are thinking along those lines as well:

    Elsewhere, Wigan Athletic have an eye on Barnsley centre-backs Liam Lindsay and Ethan Pinnock, according to the Sun. Transfer guru Alan Nixon believes the pair are both on the radar of Paul Cook’s side after an impressive season for the Tykes. Both aged 25, Lindsay and Ethan Pinnock have been at the heart of a Barnsley back line that boasts the best defensive record in League One, having conceded just 36 goals in 43 league games.
     
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    Alan Gowling, ex MU and NUFC was one of those unusual players in the early 70's, having an Economics degree from Manchester.

    His colleagues used to call him 'Bamber', after Mr Gascoigne, he of University Challenge fame.
     
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  16. The Norton Cat

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    Graeme le Saux started an Environmental Studies degree at Kingston University but dropped out to concentrate on football.

    David Wetherall (former Leeds and Bradford City centre back) has a first in Chemistry from Sheffield.
     
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  17. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    I'm sure Simon Mignolet was attending uni while he was playing for us.
     
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    Actually, I think Sorensen was too. Someone I know was there at the same time.
     
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    Ian dowie has a degree in engineering, Shaka hislop mech eng,
     
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    Remember Darius Kubicki used to be called Prof cos he was doing some studying. Great player for us that lad, so consistent
     
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