Off Topic The Politics Thread

Yes, but we can do the deals, which is prevented at present. In WTO, we'd have to have a common tariff for all anyway.

 

Good to see people on the street at last United in a common goal . Not sure everyone there even understands why and can be realistic about reducing carbon emissions by 2025 but at least it’s a collective well away from the Brexit stuff

Imo as a hypocrite you can’t change anything in this world now without money hence why I conclude these people are dream sheep themselves. self obsessed in another way maybe.

I think you have to choose a side here and commit

I fly every two weeks so have to be honest I cannot contribute to the cause and as I said square on to protesters yesterday I do not want to change nor would I ever want to live in a Glastonbury style hippy ****witt disfunctional society full of pissheads and drug users.

I posed the question that could they not go offer to sacrifice themselves... that was interesting plus why the tattoos and hair extensions... is that not a uniform anyway? This after I was criticised for wearing a smart coat as I was on my way to work?

One bloke who looked like an extra from Game of Thrones told me it was sad I didn’t get it ... I drew attention to the fact that he was wearing £200 Quid Nike trainers and told him I was even familiar with the ad campaign in 2017 for Nike that probably influenced his footwear choice

Still made the travelling around London interesting Today we get to see them in the tube dancing and prancing all on French imported electricity I would bet

 

Here are a few hallucinations:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/07/norwegian-mp-britain-eea-norway-eu-brexiters

https://news.sky.com/story/why-norw...ks-rebound-relationship-after-brexit-11570549

https://qz.com/1488907/norway-isnt-keen-on-the-uks-so-called-norway-option-after-brexit/

 

The source in all 3 of those links is the one and same Norwegian MP concerns, which I already mentioned in a previous post, and certainly those concerns don't mean "Norway don't want us". The Norwegian Prime Minister said at the end of November that if the UK really wants to join EFTA then we will find a solution to that.

 

OK, noted. But the first thing anyone says when the Norway option comes up on talk shows, discussion panels etc is "they don't want us" so that one Norwegian MP has had a big effect not yet neutralised by the Norwegian PM

 

Well there has been a lot of very bad information and influences within the Brexiteer camp over three years ... the following calm period will be there so that voters can reflect on their original decision in 2016

If everyone ponders they should see that this an accurate guess ... add that to the 16m remainers and I expect the new final act see us remain within the EU. Currently people are worn down by the antics but as I have always believed this was all intentional and the EU know this

Will be interesting if it kicks off again after we have all eaten too much chocolate and the New Age travellers have been removed from London ... some have glued themselves to things ... with chemical glue made by the very large corporations they are fighting against

Will be interesting tonight as we have a couple of protesters staying with us ... Mrs DTs hippie friends who flew in from Bulgaria on a budget airline this morning ... looking forward to that later

 

Look.......

If the climate change protestors are right, we're all doomed, doomed I tell yer.

 

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The clouds looming over the global automotive industry have darkened this week with Volkswagen’s former CEO being charged with fraud over the Diesel emissions scandal. Already tumbling German business confidence will not be improved…
Now beleaguered car company Nissan will cut 600 jobs in two plants in Spain, on top of Ford’s announcement last month that it is slashing 5,000 jobs in Germany. If this was happening in Britain the media would be falling over itself to blame it on Brexit…

The reason the likes of Nissan and Toyota are cutting back in Europe is down to one simple thing. The 'EU-Japan Economic Partnership Agreement' that, among other things, introduced 0% tariffs on car imports in either direction.
The sole reason that Japanese car manufacturers built plants in Europe 20/30 years ago was to avoid those tariffs. Now the tariffs are gone, the incentive to produce in the EU has been removed.
Japan has a population of around 125m, the EU over 500m. Who do we think is going to benefit the most from that arrangement?
Sure BMW, Mercedes and the VAG group might sell a few more cars in Japan, but Japanese manufacturers will now take all manufacturing back to Japan. As older models come end of life, they'll tool-up new factories in Japan and close the factories in Europe. That's great for European workers though isn't it??
Well done to the EU negotiating team, that was great forward thinking there.

 

The climate is always changing imo
Had the worse floods on record in France last year
But on the upside my gardens are much more fertile this year and I expect a bumper harvest of walnuts

We will adapt I am ready bring it on

It only takes a drone to shut a airport over here or a leaf to fall on a railway track

 

get yourself some chlorinated chicken

Chicken meat rife with antibiotic-resistant superbugs
A study has found half of chicken meat at discount supermarkets is contaminated with antibiotic resistant germs that pose a major health risk. The results indicate antibiotics are overused at industrial poultry farms.

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More than half of chicken meat sold at low-cost supermarkets in Germany is contaminated with antibiotic-resistant bacteria, according to a probe of meat samples.
The environmental and consumer organization Germanwatch described the results of their study on Tuesday as "an alarmingly high resistance rate" that shows the overuse of antibiotics in industrial poultry production is endangering human health.
Read more: Superbugs kill 33,000 in Europe each year, says study
Germanwatch had 59 chicken meat samples from large discount supermarkets analyzed at a university lab and found that 56% were colonized by antibiotic-resistant germs. The meat samples came from the four largest slaughterhouses in Germany.
Responding to the study, the Federal Agriculture Ministry said it "suggests that too many antibiotics are used in the poultry industry."
Bacteria-fighting drugs have become less effective due to overuse in humans and animals as bacteria adapt and evolve. The more antibiotics are used, the greater bacteria are able to boost their defenses.
Read more: German scientists find antibiotic-resistant germs in lakes, streams
Alarmingly, the study found that one-third of chicken meat samples from discount supermarkets Lidl, Netto, Real, Aldi and Penny were contaminated with bacteria resistant to so-called reserve antibiotics.
Reserve antibiotics are fourth-generation and fifth-generation drugs used as a last resort to fight superbugs resistant to traditional antibiotics.
Experts said that bacteria are killed when chicken is properly cooked, but that humans can become sick or even die through cross-contamination with uncooked foods in the kitchen, such as on a cutting board. Workers at industrial chicken farms can also be exposed to germs through inhalation.

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Antibiotic resistant microbes can contaminate uncooked foods in the kitchen
Probes of 12 chicken meat samples from small-scale farmers were also conducted and only one was found to have antibiotic-resistant germs. In another analysis, six samples from ecological farms found no resistant pathogens.
Germanwatch linked the differing results to the overuse of antibiotics at industrial poultry farms.
Read more: WHO publishes list of 12 pathogens that pose greatest risk to human health
The situation will only improve if the government prohibits veterinarians from prescribing antibiotics to "compensate for the consequences of catastrophic housing conditions and turbo-breeding in the production of cheap meat," Germanwatch said.
Although German poultry farmers have halved their antibiotic consumption since 2011, it is still twice as high as in Denmark, Great Britain or Austria, according to the environmental and consumer organization.
Germanwatch demanded that the use of antibiotics at poultry farms be dramatically reduced and that chicken meat be labeled as coming from industrial farms to better inform consumers.

 

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London Mayor Sadiq Khan suggested the Extinction Rebellion protests are “inadvertently” driving people away from using public transport to use taxis instead

 

Since the EU was founded there have been 48 referendums on integration and accession, of the 48, not once has there been a re-run when the result was pro-integration. When they've gone against, Brussels has always made the member state vote again until they get the right result!pic.twitter.com/ylSfyRYFHw
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These arseholes supergluing themselves to whatever should just be left where they are for as long as it takes. A couple of days soiling themselves might concentrate their minds...

 

Send the ****ing lot of them to Glastonbury

Set a trailer full of blow on fire and let the ****ers dance round it for a week

 

I don't see much of this kind of thing living outside the UK, and when they have mouths talking about what the papers say on Sky "News", I usually turn it off pretty quick - the owners of these mouths usually seem to be unpleasant people trying to sound clever, and getting paid for it.

 

Hilarious - I worked with his dad a couple of years ago and he told me about this!!

 

if you cant afford a second house then you should sell it
pigs snouts etc
Dozens of MPs rent out their London homes - while claiming more than £1.3million in expenses from taxpayers for hotel rooms

• 46 MPs used expenses loophole, which is not against parliamentary rules
• Allowed to claim £20,600 a year in London rent and £150 a night for hotels
• Mortgage claim ban forced them to let out second homes, MPs said

Dozens of MPs are claiming taxpayer-funded expenses to rent homes or stay in hotel rooms in London while letting out property they own nearby, it emerged last night.
The 46 MPs have claimed more than £1.3million for rent or hotel rooms at the same time as receiving rent from properties that were often purchased and refurbished from taxpayers’ money.
An investigation by Channel 4 News found 25 Conservatives, 14 Labour and four Liberal Democrats had benefited from the expenses loophole, which is not against parliamentary rules.
Many of the MPs bought their London properties with the help of the taxpayer under the previous expenses system that allowed claims for mortgage payments.

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He bought the two-bedroom apartment, which has a private lift and porter, in 2005 and claimed around £1,000 a month in mortgage claims.
But when the rules changed he moved into another flat and let out the property he already owned for around £3,000 a month.
Scottish Labour leader Jim Murphy owns a property two miles from Westminster that he bought with taxpayer help. But in the previous two years he claimed £39,372 to rent another flat for himself.

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Labour’s shadow culture minister Chris Bryant (left) has claimed £35,350 in the past two years to rent a property in London despite owning a penthouse. Former Liberal Democrat defence minister Sir Nick Harvey (right) has charged the taxpayer £39,772 for the rent of a flat, despite owning a house in Lambeth
Former Liberal Democrat defence minister Sir Nick Harvey has charged the taxpayer £39,772 in expense claims for the rent of a flat, despite owning a house in Lambeth, which he has let out to tenants since the rule change.
Andrew Lansley, the former Tory health secretary, has claimed more than £7,440 since 2013 to stay in London hotels, despite owning a flat with his wife in upmarket Pimlico, which was bought with help under the old expenses system.
SNP MP Angus MacNeil owns a flat in Lambeth, a short walk from the Houses of Parliament, which was paid for with taxpayer help. But he has claimed £42,177 in hotel expenses om the three years since 2012/13.
Former Chairman of the Committee for Standards in Public Life Sir Alistair Graham said MPs should be seen to be upholding the spirit of the rules that state they must not ‘exploit the system for personal financial advantage’.

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Former Chairman of the Committee for Standards in Public Life Sir Alistair Graham (above) said MPs should be seen to be upholding the spirit of the rules that state they must not ‘exploit the system for personal financial advantage’
He told Channel 4 News: ‘It’s not always just about exactly what the rules say. It is about you taking personal responsibility that public funds are used in a proper and appropriate way that your constituents would be comfortable with.
‘I’m sure we will hear all sorts of sob stories about why it’s justifiable to do what they’ve done.
‘But they must know in their heart of hearts that the public will see this as MPs on the make.’
Last night MPs said the rules banning mortgage claims had forced them to let out their second home to be able to afford the mortgage payments.
Sir Nick Harvey said: ‘This situation is not of the MPs’ choosing. MPs have been obliged to let out their own properties since 2010 because the new rules say they cannot claim mortgage interest – only rent.
‘Letting income covers the mortgage and other outgoings and is of course taxed. It is not MPs’ fault that the rules compel them to rent a separate flat to live in.’
Mr MacNeil blamed the current rules and said MPs should be allowed to claim for flats they own, as they did in the past.
Mr Lansley said he normally commuted to Parliament from his home in South Cambridgeshire and only stayed overnight in London hotel about once a month.
He told Channel 4 News: ‘My expense claims have always sought to minimise the cost to the taxpayer. My relatively few overnight stays in London (barely once a month in the last year) meant that my expenses claims would be lower for occasional hotel stays in sitting weeks than for the costs of maintaining a flat in Westminster.’
Mr Bryant and Mr Murphy did not respond to a request for comment