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Discussion in 'Plymouth' started by WestCountrylalala, Sep 10, 2011.

  1. WestCountrylalala

    WestCountrylalala Active Member Forum Moderator

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    I couldn't go to the match today as my son's team had a late kick off but I heard some of it on the radio after getting home.

    For me Sparksy summed it up when at the end of the match he said "I've gone through every emotion and now I just feel numb - there is nothing more to add" well that is exactly how I feel now and I'd imagine other fans feel the same, we've shouted, ranted, raged, marched, given, stayed away, turned up knowing full well another dissapointment was in store and now there is just a quiet acceptance of what will be will be. I think we are all emotionally drained, hardened to defeat...

    ..will it ever end?
     
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  2. Plymborn

    Plymborn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    The official Argyle site suggests that Walton was subbed because he was injured...............Some others say he was subbed because he was blaming everbody else for things going wrong............seems that a lot of people also felt good riddance to him.

    If you were at the match what did you think ?
     
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  3. Greenarmyjoe

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    Mrs Reid, i have no idea when this sorry saga will end, it is affecting everyone at the club as well as the fans. Its sickening watching it happen for us all.
    What can we do?
     
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  4. Plymjools

    Plymjools Active Member Forum Moderator

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    I dont like Walton but give the lad his due he's away from his wife and kids, he's having to live with another Argyle player, and had to sell his car, and he still puts on a green shirt ..... would you work for nothing ?
     
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  5. WestCountrylalala

    WestCountrylalala Active Member Forum Moderator

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    In a word - no, well I might do it for Argyle <laugh>
     
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  6. Greenarmyjoe

    Greenarmyjoe Well-Known Member

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    I work for nothing :sad:
     
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    Plymjools Active Member Forum Moderator

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    You're a plumber Joe so you definately dont work for nothing lol
     
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  8. Greenarmyjoe

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    Why do people think Plumberers earn money lol
     
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  9. Plymjools

    Plymjools Active Member Forum Moderator

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    Cos we've all had to call out a plumbers lol
     
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  10. greens_are_good_for_you

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    He may have put on a green shirt but he didn't even get to the touch line to take it off when he was subbed. If he wasn't injured I don't think it was a good move for team morale with the other things going on because Walts clearly wasn't happy and in my humble opinion he wasn't having a bad game. Fletcher made a big difference to centre midfield and perhaps a straight swap with another midfielder would have been better.
     
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  11. sensiblegreeny

    sensiblegreeny Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I think he was subbed because he went through the back of one of their players and it looked like he was about to start losing it. He did moan a lot throughout the match whilst on and I also think he was not happy playing where he was. He is not a centre half. But, he plays where he is put whether happy about it or not and that has nothing to do with being away from the wife or being paid or anything else. Walton lacks discipline now and always has. He seems to think he is bigger or better than the rest and it shows with his petulance. Given his attitude when he was getting paid and the fact that Argyle paid him to play for somebody else, he can hardly throw toys out of the pram now. He owes Argyle as much as we owe him now. I think he has had some good matches more recently but he is not a backs to the wall person. If it is not going his way then he soon reverts to type which maybe just a clue to him why his career has stalled, given another chance, stalled and he has ended up here with nobody else wanting to buy him. I don't like him and would have given him away to anyone who would have wanted to take him on. By the way Mrs Reid, supporters would always play for their own club for free. That's because it would never happen and if they were good enough would become like the rest of footballers and the tinted specs would soon disappear. Something else I find amusing is the concept that if a man is away from his family this somehow affects them badly. It is possible to miss them but if you have a job that does not stop you doing it well. In my Naval career I spent long periods away from home but I still did my job. Not like today's Navy when going over the horizon from the Breakwater for a day trip is seen as being absent. 18 months away was not unusual in days gone by and the only reason for coming home early was death or near enough anyway.
     
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  12. Plymborn

    Plymborn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Sensible.........I have never been slow in giving my views on tubby Walton.........I think last summer spoke volumes about how the football fraternity saw Walton.

    With Argyle selling literally anything that moved NO ONE as far as we know came in for Walton.........possibly two reasons.........he has never realized his so called potential............and secondly he was still on championship wages and definately overpaid.........OK no one has earned much money recently at PAFC...........but not taking that into consideration surely Argyle would have shipped him out at the first opportunity if someone came sniffing around. Someone on pasoti the other week said they had got on the London train straight from the match and Walton was already on it...........no warming down with the lads after the game.........no encouraging the younger players in the dressing room after the game......gone.

    Sensible...........I felt hard done by being in Aden for nineteen months with no chance of coming home...........My father told me that in the 1930s he spent 7 years in Alexandria without coming home.On arriving home he found his new posting by request of his old commanding officer was to go with him for 3 more years to the Sudan......he had less than 3 months at home in the whole decade and.............HE WAS MARRIED TO MUM DURING THAT PERIOD..........and that was the soft RAF.
     
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  13. lyndhurstgreen

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    sensibly, i agree with most of what u say but pse dont dis the modern sailor. I am fairly senior and leave the service in 2 years after 33.5 years in the RN. yes it is very different now and it really hacks me off whern matelots dont want to go to sea but the vast majority still join to serve Queen & country. The differenece now is thet every deployment is hard work- either middle east (V.DULL) or counter drugs (long hours no down time). Long gone are the days of "island hopping" in the w Indies which i enjoyed in the 80S & early 90s-i.e. there is no "fun in the sun" anymore.
    as 4 Walton-he neeeds to grow up and show some respect to the manager-its not like he is a particularly good player and his recent games have been poor. 4 some reason he thinks he is better then he is. If we had been paying him he should have a big fine!!!
     
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  14. sensiblegreeny

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    Maybe it is the Media's fault lyndhurst because they make a big play of a 3 month/6 month absence. It was however the only comparrison I could make with any knowledge. I'll bet he has a couple of days at home every week so has nothing much to complain about. I know they aren't getting paid at the moment but he is the sort who would be moaning about absence even if he was. I just don't like the man and think he has been the biggest waste of money since Mpenza.

    Not sure about the Island hopping in the sun in years gone by. I was on a Survey ship for 2 years and visited such sunny places as Swansea, Greenock, Scapa Flow, Stornaway and once for a real treat Bantry Bay in Southern Ireland. 9 months off Scotland ploughing up and down and 9 months in the Western Approaches doing the same. Also spent 12 months in Bahrain as a 17 year old. Was I supposed to Island hop in the sun? I think I must have upset drafty very badly and I was a writer.
     
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  15. greens_are_good_for_you

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    Think you lot had it easy. I had to work in Battersea for two weeks once without going home!
     
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  16. BYeee

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    Plymborn and Sensible - when did you both join and leave the RN?

    Lyndhurst, I left before you joined up - no disrespect meant by this post guys
     
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  17. WestCountrylalala

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    Too many matelots/ex-matelots around here for my liking. <whistle>
     
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  18. lyndhurstgreen

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    actually if it hadnt been for the RN I wouldn't have moved to guzz, married a lovely plymouth girl, bought a season ticket, had children (2 boys) and now have two season tickets, ( me plus 13 year old). sensibly you clearly did upset drafty- i had 6 x 6 months drafts to ships in the carribean in my first 10 years service- and in my last job i was drafty.!oldnicky if u left befoe i joined u must be properly old (or didnt serve for long-i joined in 1980)
     
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  19. Plymborn

    Plymborn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    My service record was national service............two years in the RAF.........nineteen months of it in RAF Steamerpoint Aden, 1960/2.
     
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  20. BYeee

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    I joined in 1959 left in 1970!!!

    I joined as a cabin boy aged
     
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