“The prime minister was the last to relinquish [her Blackberry], of which she was so fond she has previously asked officials to get missing keys replaced. When it broke, she had it repaired. Now that’s what I call a conservative. Not a Thatcherite, or a monetarist, or a libertarian, or a Christian democrat, or a rightwinger, or even a Tory – but a conservative, an instinctive resister of change.” – David Mitchell
She wants a 4th vote up against the winner of the Indicative Vote. This right here shows how disingenuous that fckwit is, because the only reason she's doing it is to prevent a Tory party split and a GE. I hope she tries and fcking bombs. She is SO quick to renege on what she says. After the vote she suggested that parliament agree a way forward through the indicative votes on Monday and this could then form part of her WA, which to me seemed reasonable. Now that 4th vote ****e is being leaked by Downing Street. These Tories really should just fck off.
definition of madness. only reasoned means forward is long extension, elect meps, hold local elections and general election and let the ****ing thing fall where it will. the Tories of course will never do this. I'd love to see what happens in ni. there is an alternative to the dup in the uup for the unionists so it'd be interesting to see if the actions of the dup lead to them losing seats or not. (the uup have been virtually wiped out at this point? but still exist) anyway.... this is farcical. more indicative votes. may wont throw her deal in the bin. she won t take a longer dealt cos the Brexiteers have told her they won't countenance anything. the only logical conclusion to this is general election. why? two votes against referendum so far three votes against withdrawal deal. no path forward chosen. So..... obvious impasse in parliament that cannot be broken.
it's farcical. he's supposed to be above politics so thry need to be put in place. clearly some people (the reality is 58 defeat is 10 dup = 20 vote swing so the hardest of hard Brexiteers are left) So if Labour refuse to break the whip then both sides need to realise they've put the country I t the toilet in terms of reputation and very close to economic meltdown. it's high time people get to vote. as a referendum has been voted down that means general election
They can still agree the WA with a Customs Union imo. But the Tories won't allow it. So yeh a GE will be the end result.
It would require labour to propose and at least 50 Tories to defect. remember the snp might just vote no just to get their independance
I don't know what to say about the SNP. They continually cry about never being consulted. You would think if an indicative vote agrees on something they have been included. So if they vote against it after that, then they really are just full of ****. If some great author had wanted to write a novel, they couldn't possibly have come up with this. It's the most perfect ****storm in the history of ****storms.
she cannot promise anything with withdrawal agreement. nothing. she has to see if eu are willing to give a non legal letter to attach to existing withdrawal agreement. they might tell her to **** off. like.... what do people think this looks like to the eu who he negotiated for 2 years in good faith and now in the 13th hour this **** is still happening.
Normally I'd agree but they would be happy to have us stay in the Customs Union. They can also use it to resolve the the backstop issue. Problem solved should be their reply. It wouldn't need to go in the WA but as a legally binding addendum.
whilst not as problematic as staying in the single market i wouldn't like to be an MP who voted for that in a "leave" constituency.
Yes that's true but may couldnt tag it on unilaterally. As of now if an indicitave vote says customs union (Brexiteers will say that was already voted down) and may was actually willing to go to that last minute eu summit and suggest it a letter of intent i'm sure they would say yes but We must be clear here that means 4 freedoms to the eu and Tories won't accept it. The reality is the 4 freedoms and courts are the issue with the tories
These multiple politics threads are almost as bad as following Brexit Depends on the arrangement of a customs union. If it allows better terms to trade elsewhere than would apply if we were stuck in the backstop, that's what I would say. I appreciate many leavers want a no deal though. At the end of the day depends if the MP genuinely believes a no deal would be bad for his/her constituents and does his/her best.
You are at the heart of the issue here. It's the eu's customs union. The very heart of the eu is the 4 freedoms. There wont be a compromise on that. No way no how from eu. So in the end if parliament say that's favoured I can see may ****ing off and just asking for a long extension and run elections for eu on grounds of a whole different deal
fairly certain the the customs union does not mean you are bound by all 4 freedoms particularly the free movement and the EU have already indicated they would look favourably on any such request but it would be a difficult "sell" to the leave voters.
