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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Don’t know why Brexiters are so glum about this. As far as I can see there is zero chance of the government coming up with any new, acceptable way forward, and an equally non existent hope of the ****wits we call parliamentarians agreeing anything. So default is no deal on 12 April. The only alternative is a long delay which would be imposed and probably see the EU demanding it’s £39bn in exchange. The government hasn’t got the balls to see this through without getting MPs support, and MPs won’t support it.

I’m now at the stage where a no deal Brexit is fine by me. The EU will knock the edges off the worst of it, because it hurts them too.
 
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Buried in todays news, the Vote Leave drops its appeal against it's appeal against the Electoral Commissions findings of their multiple electoral offenses committed during the 2016 Referendum campaign. They say they have paid a £61 000 fine which the Electoral Commission is looking forward to receive. Revoking Article 50 will be the correct receipt..
 
rangercol said:
I know you don't. We're all thick racists aren't we, who only wanted to stop immigration?
A deal could have been struck had there been the will among those ruling elitists that you hold in such high regard.
You know the ones, people like that toff Oliver Letwin.

The dinner party set across London will all be packing into their local Waitrose to buy their favourite bubbly to celebrate their victory.

Meanwhile, your mates in the ruling elite will get an absolute beasting at the next election.
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Jesus grow up man. Your reasons for voting the way you did are your own but you are ****ing deluded if you think that immigration wasn't the significant factor behind the result. It doesn't mean y'all are racists although I note it's only you and Ellers that keep bringing it up, but your paranoia is your own business. Look at Farage's sickening breaking point bill board or the constant daily denigration of foreigners by the likes of The Mail, The Sun and (shudder) The Express. I'm sorry but when we are still facing swathe after swathe of meaningless slogans (out means out, get over it, snowflake remoaners etc), not only is it meaningless bs but it's showing that much of the vote was decided by people still wilfully not engaging with the reality of the situation.
 
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sb_73 said:
Don’t know why Brexiters are so glum about this. As far as I can see there is zero chance of the government coming up with any new, acceptable way forward, and an equally non existent hope of the ****wits we call parliamentarians agreeing anything. So default is no deal on 12 April. The only alternative is a long delay which would be imposed and probably see the EU demanding it’s £39bn in exchange. The government hasn’t got the balls to see this through without getting MPs support, and MPs won’t support it.

I’m now at the stage where a no deal Brexit is fine by me. The EU will knock the edges off the worst of it, because it hurts them too.
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The problem is that while the ****wits can't say yes to anything, they're well practised in saying no. If no-deal comes up, they'll all jump up and down and say, no, we want to keep the country in limbo (as long as we're not asked to work on a Friday again). Business must love them. Meanwhile Calais is saying it is up and ready for no deal, and can't understand the delay
 
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sb_73 said:
Don’t know why Brexiters are so glum about this. As far as I can see there is zero chance of the government coming up with any new, acceptable way forward, and an equally non existent hope of the ****wits we call parliamentarians agreeing anything. So default is no deal on 12 April. The only alternative is a long delay which would be imposed and probably see the EU demanding it’s £39bn in exchange. The government hasn’t got the balls to see this through without getting MPs support, and MPs won’t support it.

I’m now at the stage where a no deal Brexit is fine by me. The EU will knock the edges off the worst of it, because it hurts them too.
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You know as well as I do that those ****s in parliament will never let "no deal" happen.
I predict a long delay, granted by our EU masters, with many conditions, a general election and then.....


**** knows!!
 
sb_73 said:
Don’t know why Brexiters are so glum about this. As far as I can see there is zero chance of the government coming up with any new, acceptable way forward, and an equally non existent hope of the ****wits we call parliamentarians agreeing anything. So default is no deal on 12 April. The only alternative is a long delay which would be imposed and probably see the EU demanding it’s £39bn in exchange. The government hasn’t got the balls to see this through without getting MPs support, and MPs won’t support it.

I’m now at the stage where a no deal Brexit is fine by me. The EU will knock the edges off the worst of it, because it hurts them too.
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I can't see No Deal happening. There'll be a majority in Parliament on Monday for a way forward.
 
Frome-Ranger said:
Jesus grow up man. Your reasons for voting the way you did are your own but you are ****ing deluded if you think that immigration wasn't the significant factor behind the result. It doesn't mean y'all are racists although I note it's only you and Ellers that keep bringing it up, but your paranoia is your own business. Look at Farage's sickening breaking point bill board or the constant daily denigration of foreigners by the likes of The Mail, The Sun and (shudder) The Express. I'm sorry but when we are still facing swathe after swathe of meaningless slogans (out means out, get over it, snowflake remoaners etc), not only is it meaningless bs but it's showing that much of the vote was decided by people still wilfully not engaging with the reality of the situation.
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You ****ing grow up .

When did I last mention immigration before my recent post?
Even then I only mentioned it to point out that it wasn't a main reason for voting leave imo.
Can't you ****ing read, or are you so in love with the EU project that you simply cannot contemplate any other way?
For your information, I believe many people voted leave because they didn't want to be part of a united states of Europe, as I did.
Immigration was a concern, but not my main reason for voting leave.

Clear enough for you?

Are you impressed with your remain chums in the ruling elite?
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
The problem is that while the ****wits can't say yes to anything, they're well practised in saying no. If no-deal comes up, they'll all jump up and down and say, no, we want to keep the country in limbo (as long as we're not asked to work on a Friday again). Business must love them. Meanwhile Calais is saying it is up and ready for no deal, and can't understand the delay
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The French are fully turned on either way Stan
They have been preparing for two years
This was brushed off on here as me projecting project fear . I agree hope the EU boots the U.K. out then reality will cut in big time

I say again the best place to sell goods to the U.K. will be from Europe

Some don’t have an out and that doesn’t sit well with me today
 
rangercol said:
You ****ing grow up .

When did I last mention immigration before my recent post?
Even then I only mentioned it to point out that it wasn't a main reason for voting leave imo.
Can't you ****ing read, or are you so in love with the EU project that you simply cannot contemplate any other way?
For your information, I believe many people voted leave because they didn't want to be part of a united states of Europe, as I did.
Immigration was a concern, but not my main reason for voting leave.

Clear enough for you?

Are you impressed with your remain chums in the ruling elite?
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Well I am pro Europe and have to state no one in UK politics has my support We need total reform to even get started again
 
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rangercol said:
You ****ing grow up .

When did I last mention immigration before my recent post?
Even then I only mentioned it to point out that it wasn't a main reason for voting leave imo.
Can't you ****ing read, or are you so in love with the EU project that you simply cannot contemplate any other way?
For your information, I believe many people voted leave because they didn't want to be part of a united states of Europe, as I did.
Immigration was a concern, but not my main reason for voting leave.

Clear enough for you?

Are you impressed with your remain chums in the ruling elite?
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The people you insist on calling the 'ruling elite' are our elected representatives. They may be a particularly unimpressive bunch, but we elected them. This is how our democracy works.
 
Stroller said:
The people you insist on calling the 'ruling elite' are our elected representatives. They may be a particularly unimpressive bunch, but we elected them. This is how our democracy works.
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We voted for both main parties with a manifesto to leave.
Parliament voted to trigger article 50.
Democracy in this Country is broken.
You carry on pretending it isn't.
 
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rangercol said:
We voted for both main parties with a manifesto to leave.
Parliament voted to trigger article 50.
Democracy in this Country is broken.
You carry on pretending it isn't.
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We will leave Col, but maybe not in the reckless way that you lot now seem to want. Leaving with a Customs Union would still be leaving. Our Parluamentary democracy is working fine, it seems to me.
 
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