Sigh... There are good reasons for voting Brexit, but please don't ever try to imply that JRM/Farage, etc are not part of the 'elites'. That said, they're all bloody part of it, leave and remain alike.
It is not as bad as you think it is, probably the only bad bad bit was the GE ………… and the SNP rise on the back of a failed independence vote … Blackfords sole canvassing aim was "vote for us and we will cause havoc at Westminster and get another vote" 1000's of independence orientated people voted so they took a load of seats... it is a shame the other parties in NI don't /refuse to sit in parliament . as they don't give the opinion of the people who voted for them …… Cor boliks … IF he proposed something and his party seconded it when the vote came they would vote against it ..!!!! He is still hell bent on being PM although he has restricted stating to once every couple of days instead of 4 times in and hour!!!! BEARING IN MIND the manifesto of labour concentrated solely in the main on getting rid of UNI fee's spending £bm's on healthcare etc and very little about the BREXIT those "new labour MP'S" that had shock results are likely to not get re elected ……… COR BOLIKS might get his wish a GE but ………………….. TM has had to fight every tonne of negativity thrown at her, and even had the odd "sort of" apology from some that did "wrong"... Jacob!...… the DUP well they are like COR BOLIKS and the SNP fixed in what they want, AND EVEN THOUGH THEY VOTED TO have the 8q's which showed just how impossible the task was and must accept in the first instance a compromise still vote against what they originally voted for A great many learned and influential people have all come out behind TM as they can see the " the damn if she does damned if she doesn't aspect ……… History will show what a holes SNP and CORBOLIKS WERE. alas we will not be alive when peeps in future look back and say pig ignorance a new definition for the dictionary "corboliksnp"
If you think history will make the SNP and Labour look **** but the Tories look good, you're absolutely deluded. Labour and the Tories have both been absolute ****e. 'Corboliks' is an incredible insult and mistype combo by the way. Great fan of that.
I’m 52. I’ve never experienced such a sorry shower of 5h1te in all my years since I became politically ‘aware’ at around 17 years old. How is it possible to follow mistakes with other mistakes? Arrogance with arrogance? I have so little faith in our politicians now I really don’t know what to do? I can’t do anything I suppose. They rule me. What we will probably get though is ‘Remain’ in all respects except us not having representation in Brussels. Might as well just remain. It has to go back to the people, surely?
So what happens after the 2nd referendum - a 3rd until you get your way ? I hear Tusk and Macron are threatening that we have no choice but to leave with 'no deal' on April 12. Mark my words R&W they will 'give' us as long as you remainers want. Delay Delay Frustrate until remainers get their way. Pathetic. Don't be surprised if in the country it turns nasty. Leavers won't put up with our shambolic 'remaining' MPs much longer.
The leave side did break the rules multiple times mind. The only reason certain people aren't in jail is because it wasn't binding, and they've confirmed that if it was binding then the result would have been void. I appreciate that doesn't account for all the 52% of votes but it's a fair point. I agree with the sentiment though. After how many does it stop? It would be ridiculous.
We won’t leave with no deal, that’s a certainty , that is one thing we do have control over. We can revoke A50 unilaterally. If EU refuse us time and we’ve nothing else agreed I’m convinced that’s what the MP’s will do.
You can believe me or not RP - frankly I don’t care what you think of me. I voted ‘Remain’ after months of trying to find out what ‘Leave’ looked like. NOT BECAUSE I LOVE THE EU - I DONT. I would rather we Brexited than this ‘limbo’ which doesn’t help anyone. You have your vision of Brexit - which some share and others don’t. Quite frankly if you fear another referendum then you must lack faith in your Brexiteer compatriots. For Remain to win, a significant number of them would have had to switch sides. I just want this 5h1t to end so I can get on with my life.
Sorry mate, agree with most of your posts , but couldn’t disagree more on this one , you can’t have a second vote before implementing the result of the first one , that I’m afraid isn’t democracy.
If the present MP’s are that incompetent that they are the unable to find a way through Brexit, how about a general election whereby all present MP’s are not allowed to stand, I’m in my mid 50’s , I’ve been politically aware since my mid teens and I’ve never known such a poor group of politicians, on both sides, in all my years of watching politics, just at a time when we need them most.
You decide to go to restaurant A anyway, as surely it can’t be that bad , after all it is a restaurant, when you get there you actually find it’s serves the most amazing food you have ever eaten in your entire life, the **** story had been lies all along told by the owners of restaurant B to persuade you not to go to restaurant A and you are glad you were intelligent enough to see through the rumours and stand by your initial instinct.
If on the other hand you go to restaurant A and it actually does serve human excrement , then by all means go to restaurant B next time .
It’s your choice. Mine is I don’t trust any of these lot to get anything right. I’m off for a drive in my German car, because the electricity funded by the French has an issue. (Broken switch probably made somewhere else in Europe). No worries when I get home, I can sit in my funded Russian gas for warmth. Did you realise after the war when we was strong and powered on most of the things then was built in this country. Anyway I’m only here for a laugh, leavers calling remainers snowflakes, remainers calling leavers insane. **** me if I didn’t laugh I would cry at all this shambles
The problem with that analogy, is that in truth, going to restaurant A and then deciding we don't like it, would mean we can never go to restaurant B and enjoy it at it's maximum. It would mean going there in the future and only having a starter.
