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  1. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    If you boil up a load of veggies with some herbs and then liquidise it into a mush, is that counted as soup, or is it too thick?
     
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  2. Milk not bear jizz

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    I don't like mushy vegetables. I like vegetables like I like my women; fresh and almost raw. That's one of the problems with canned soups, mushy vegetables.

    Mushy peas are nasty, but that's for another thread... ... Refried beans are pretty good though!
     
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  3. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    it's ****ing tasty with the right herbs n spices, generally a lot of pepper for the heat, the pour in a bowl,or on toast, with a load of brown sauce. it's 3 days worth of 5 a day in one sitting.
     
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    Taste is probably fine, but it's a texture thing. Plus, when you overcook vegetables they lose most of the health benefits to eating them in the first place.
     
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  5. Big Ern

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    that's a bit of a myth, a vegetable cooked 5 minutes after being picked will have more nutrient than a raw vegetable picked a day before, it's simply a decay over time thing, which is why the healthiest way to heat anything is a microwave. Some will leak into the water, but that is used to help mush everything up, also eating raw vegetables is not a good way to extract nutrients from them as our digestive system, though omnivorous, leans more toward extracting it from meat, regardless of any meme you may have seen.
     
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    Vegetable fibres break down when cooked, this makes them more digestable by people but means they're not doing their job of promoting a healthy gut biome, which is the main reason fibre is so important.

    Boiling vegetables breaks down vitamin c by a third.

    That's just two effects from overcooking veggies.
     
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  7. Big Ern

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    .wrong thread
     
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    Sweet potato and butternut squash soup us excellent
     
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  9. Big Ern

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    You don't need fibre at all, for proof ask the Eskimos, Massai or anyone who is on a 100% animal diet (which anyone can do without need for supplements of fortified foods)
    the boiling point or vitamin C is 190C, the boiling point of water is 100C, all that happens is
     
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  10. Spurlock

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    My fave soup is Potato n Leek.

    ive had a few soups with indian/pakistani spices in and like a watery version of a Daal (lentil) curry

    YUM

    Homemade preferbly...got recipies if anyone wanting a go.
     
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    I hate the blanched veg trend and don't care about the health benefits, veg should be cooked through and not crunchy!
     
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    roasted veg gotta be crunchy tho init Luv
     
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  13. Milk not bear jizz

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    You don't have to boil vitC to degrade it. Yes you do need fibre because you're not an inuit. They have genetic mutations that you don't. Also it is incorrect to say that they only eat meat, that's a common misconception.

    The eat a lot of seaweed, berries and other vegetation.

    That said, whereas they do eat a lot higher percentage of their diet from meat, they eat it raw which means it doesn't lose vitamin content. (Eskimo means "raw meat eater").

    Inuits also have a lot shorter lifespan than most people because of their diet despite their genetic adaptions. In Canada they live on average 15 year less than the rest of the population. That gap used to be larger before contact and trading was more frequent.

    A high protein, low fibre diet is linked to lower life spans.
     
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    Nope I like it cooked through so that it goes sweet with nice dark edges. :biggrin:
     
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    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/raw-veggies-are-healthier/

    Cooking is crucial to our diets. It helps us digest food without expending huge amounts of energy. It softens food, such as cellulose fiber and raw meat, that our small teeth, weak jaws and digestive systems aren't equipped to handle. And while we might hear from raw foodists that cooking kills vitamins and minerals in food (while also denaturing enzymes that aid digestion), it turns out raw vegetables are not always healthier.

    Comparing the healthfulness of raw and cooked food is complicated, and there are still many mysteries surrounding how the different molecules in plants interact with the human body. The bottom line, says Liu, is to eat your veggies and fruits no matter how they're prepared.
     
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    For every study saying one thing there's another study to show that the first one was complete bollox.
     
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    Well, I wouldn't eat raw meat regardless of whether it was healthier or not (it is, if you don't get bacteria or parasite infection from it).

    Cooking allows you to get more calories from same food by making them easier to digest. (Which isn't really needed these days, we get enough calories).

    Regardless though, cooking vegetables to baby food consistency is still gross anyway even if you ignore or don't agree with the health benefits.
     
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    I agree but I also hate the modern trend of blanching them so that they are crunchy, I hate veg like that and much prefer it cooked through. Hopefully a study will come out soon showing that cooking veg through is the healthiest method and trends will change again, it's that kind of world the whole lot of us are full of ****.
     
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    I prefer the crunch. I like foods to have texture in general. Be it meat, veggies, or pasta.
     
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