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Off Topic OLOF's political thread

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by MIGHTY, Oct 1, 2017.

  1. milkyboy

    milkyboy Well-Known Member

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    <laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh>

    You canaries are crazeeee guys. You just used the word morally in the context of politicians.

    And just imagine if they ignored a manifesto pledge... my sides are splitting at the very thought!
     
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  2. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    You may well be right. It is one of the reasons my eyebrows are slightly raised by the number of Remainers who are so keen for a second referendum.

    The key, though, will be the actual choice and the wording of the referendum. If it’s between Remain and May’s deal I can’t see her deal winning.
     
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  3. OLOF

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    I've already emailed my local MP Hilary Benn telling the posh **** what an undemocratic twat he is and what affinity has he got where I live to be my local MP, I told him he only spends two hours a month in the area, four half hour surgeries once a month, the ****ing lazy bastard
     
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  4. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    Touché!

    My kingdom for a principled politician
     
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  5. Eric Le Merde

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    1-1gif flying-pig.gif
     
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  6. brisbane-lion

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    I knew you would say that, OLOF, that's why I left you out.
     
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  7. brisbane-lion

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    No, but maybe she should have done. <laugh><laugh>
     
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  8. brisbane-lion

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    Interesting to read what people (all people) think of politicians and how they will get their 'come-uppance' at the next election, but come the new day, oh. goodness, look, they've all been re-elected! and you've got the same faces on the benches as before.
     
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  9. FORZA LEEDS

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    :emoticon-0159-music He's a ****, and so's his dad (rip) he's a ****, and so's his dad (rip) :emoticon-0159-music
     
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  10. FORZA LEEDS

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    I can't take the piss Olof, Chelmsford where I live voted leave and our **** of an MP Vicky Ford's doing everything she can to sabotage the process <doh>
     
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  11. OLOF

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    Actually Forza, Leeds narrowly voted to remain too, but it does have a very high brainwashed student ****wit population who voted, and strangely enough Bradford voted leave along with most of West Yorkshire, and the whole of Yorkshire voted leave.
    I'm still waiting for a reply from that **** Benn saying he's doing it for the wishes of his constituents the bastard
     
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  12. Eireleeds1

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    So where am I flying into Saturday morning, Europe or the UK ?
     
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  13. OLOF

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    Geography not your strong point Eire?
    the UK is in the continent of Europe and always will be
    don't get lost on your way fo'fuxake<laugh> <ok>
     
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  14. LeedsLover

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    I've read some of your posts Rob, and while I can see the points you're trying to put across about the referendum vote only being advisory, I respectfully disagree with that.

    When the Government gave an equal standing vote to the people, it is a legal and binding vote because it was officially proclaimed as so by the then PM Cameron.

    The result of the referendum would've been entered as legally binding. Cameron also mentioned the vote is binding and no second referendum will be entered into. Also, the result of the referendum became set in concrete when Article 50 was enacted. Article 50 was enacted in conjunction with the result of the referendum, which would also be recorded / filed as binding.

    The result of the referendum, along with the enactment of Article 50 would've been sent to the EU mob informing them of our decision to leave the EU. They would also enter both into file, which again make both legally binding.

    Democracy, in Britains case, and unlike America it seems, means all people are given equal status, and equal opportunity to vote according to their choice, which is what happened. Just because God intervened, and a few million remainers / leavers decided to sit on their arses and not venture out into the cold rain soaked outdoors to vote is no reason for remainers to want to claim the vote was unfair, and because they believe it was unfair we should revoke Article 50

    Britain, for most part of its existence has always had a "first past the post is the winner" attitude / democratic way of doing things, especially with votes; even in Football.

    Revoking Article 50 would mean a second referendum, which goes against the people's constitutional, and Democratic rights. This action would also mean changing the law to suit the remainers, and not the country / people as a whole. The people have spoken based on a legally binding vote, and Leavers won........The people's Constitutional, and Democratic rights are legally binding and set down in law.

    Remainers, including T May and the remoaning MP's have tried all sorts, including scaremongering to change the result and try to keep us in the EU, knowing full well they don't have the right, or authority.........:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  15. brisbane-lion

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    Sorry, you're wrong Mr OLOF. The word 'continent' refers to main land, thus 'the continent of europe' is mainland europe. The UK is a bunch of islands off the mainland. You may be part of Europe, but not continental Europe. Same as Ireland.
     
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  16. LeedsLover

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    There's argument for both versions Brissy, based on what link, or website you read.

    Wikipedia says we aren't part of Continental Europe cos we are a bunch of Islands off mainland Europe's coast, so in that respect, you'd be correct.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Europe

    Quora says we are part of Continent of Europe, and always will be. This may be a reference to the EU, and/or the fact we're physically connected by the Channel Tunnel, it may also be reference to the fact we were joined onto Europe by land mass, between Dover and France some 6,500 yrs ago..........However, imo, a Tunnel doesn't make us a part of Europe as such.

    Anyone remember the old Musketeer films when they said they had to ride from London to France.

    https://www.quora.com/Is-Britain-part-of-Europe

    However, according to ANSWERS, ask us anything, they say Politically we are, but Geographically we're not even part of Europe as Geographically, we aren't connected to the mainland.

    This is where it seems to contradict itself.

    When was England declared part of Europe?
    It was never declared,England,Britain and the United Kingdom have ALWAYS been in Europe and the people European, they are Western Europe.

    Is England in Europe?
    Politically, yes. Geographically, the answer is actually no. You can only geographically belong to a continent if you are located on the mainland, and since England is located on the island of Great Britain, then they are actually not geographically a part of Europe. However, England is always consi…( FULL ANSWER )

    Is England part of Europe?
    England is part of the United Kingdom which is part of Europe. Yes, England (as part of Great Britain) is a member of the EuropeanUnion but with some particularities, especially with the moneywhich is not Euro € but Pounds Sterling (GBP)£. England is a part of the United Kingdom with Scotla…( FULL ANSWER )

    https://www.answers.com/Q/Is_England_part_of_continental_Europe
     
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  17. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for your reply LeedsLover.

    I know David Cameron committed to honouring the referendum, but strictly as a matter of law (and in terms of our constitution) the referendum was not legally binding.

    If it had been, we would not be in this position nearly three years later where Brexit has not happened and actually still might not...

    I think you are arguing that it should have been legally binding. In which case I think we agree.

    A second referendum would not go against the constitution (because our uncodified constitution doesn’t cover referendums). It also doesn’t go against the people’s democratic rights in our current system (because our only national democratic rights are at General Elections to vote our local MPs (I’m excluding local and EU elections here which cover different things and don’t detract from the supremacy of Parliament)).

    However, a second referendum would go against the democratic morality of those who committed to honouring the 2016 referendum.
     
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  18. OLOF

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    Pedantic twat
    Britain used to be joined to mainland Europe
     
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  19. Eric Le Merde

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    Morals and a connection with politicians in the same sentence <applause><applause><applause><applause>, that could be a first
     
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  20. LeedsLover

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    Houndogs updated opinions and truths on Brexit.

    29th is going to be very very interesting, and may well give an indication of could/will happen in very near future.

     
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