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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    Evidently (but sadly not twisted) . :)
     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

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    If you mean that an outgoing German chancellor had an idea and not a single thing was signed, then fixed

    Otherwise, feel free to print tour guides to the Garden Bridge or book return tickets on the Titanic
     
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    I'm saved! I'm saved. My head creep (Barr) says I'm saved. Oh I don't have to change my underwear 10 times a day anymore! So back to normal.Who can I screw up next.

    (A message from Donald.)
     
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  4. humanbeingincroydon

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    Boris Johnson says that the Dire Leader has "bottled it" over Britait

    I think it's safe to say that bloody phrase can be removed from the lexicon now...
     
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  5. deedub93

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    To Bottle: finishing 29th in a 28 team league.
     
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  6. PleaseNotPoll

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    From the man that found journalism too stressful and demanding?
     
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  7. deedub93

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    This is what the man said......
     
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  8. PleaseNotPoll

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    He said a lot of things. The Leave campaign did, too. Then they broke the law and bullshitted endlessly.
    Why should we care what either of them think?
     
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  9. deedub93

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    Most definitely, no one surely believed the remain promise that 800,000 would become unemployed immediately and house prices would crash if we voted to leave and surely no one believed the £350M for the NHS that the leavers we saying.
    My vote was based on my personal situation and what the guy who called the referendum said would happen. If MP's do not deliver what was promised then they should pay for it at the next election.
     
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    The Leave lot can't deliver what was promised, as they were all offering contradictory terms. That was the problem.
    Deal or No Deal Brexit: Would you like to remain in the EU or would you like something else that's completely undefined?
    Now a bunch of them have decided that this actually meant a very particular form of Brexit that they'd all previously ruled out.

    The whole thing is a shambles. **** it off, lock up Farage, Banks, et al and boot out May and Corbyn.
     
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  11. The RDBD

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    Not so. The sequence from day 1 was :

    1. Referendum : in or out of the EU.

    2. If the electoral majority vote leave, then Parliament is tasked with attempting to
    define the best possible terms with the EU, financially and with good will, ASAP.

    Parliament (effectively the Tory party starting from Cameron treacherously
    walking from something he started, to the clown show that is citizen May -
    in general and her 2017 general election car crash) , has from day 1 not
    demonstrated anything vaguely resembling #2.
     
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  12. bigsmithy9

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    I wonder sometimes if May and Trump actually believe what comes out of their mouths.

    As Harold Wilson would say..."Mary,come and listen to this tripe!"
     
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    Because those that desire 2 don't remotely agree on what it actually is. See Farage's Norway reversal, for example.
     
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    This shows the Farage and co are full of ****. Even he didn’t know what Brexit meant.



     
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  15. Left on the Shelf

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    But no one said immediately ON the vote. Those predictions were largely for the impact of Brexit once we'd left. We haven't yet left.
    A fact that the former and anticipated former workers at Ford, Toyota Nissan etc, plus all the other smaller businesses that face closure in the event of the departure will already appreciate. Unless of course you believe that those business decisions are unrelated to Brexit......

    PS.... House prices are falling, particularly in London & SE and have done so for the past year or so. Crash? Not yet, but I'm glad I don't have a big UK mortgage and the prospect of negative equity comes back into focus.
     
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    Well after today's performance in the House of Commons, I look forward to seeing the updated ballot paper for the upcoming 2nd Referendum. Oops, I mean People's Vote (Sorry, went off narrative there. Easy mistake to make) :emoticon-0111-blush
    2019-Referendum-Ballot-Paper.jpg
    But I stay positive in the knowledge that if remain wins this time around (and how couldn't they?), we'll 100% definitely get another vote in 2 years and 9 months to make it best of three <ok>
     
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  17. The RDBD

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    UEFA rules : away goals count.
     
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  18. deedub93

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    I disagree, there certainly were people predicting those things as an immediate result of a leave vote. Car manufacturing is undergoing an industry wide change. Fords are making 5000 redundant in Germany. Toyota announced last week that they would be making new models in the UK whatever the result of Brexit. Obviously Brexit will have some effect. If we chose WTO and low tax economy, you might find businesses will be encouraged to come here. Nothing is as black and white as some of the scare stories make out. The people who supply drugs for the NHS rubbished the claim that there would be drug shortages in the event of a no deal over the weekend, but people are still claiming that there will be.
     
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  19. Spudulike

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  20. humanbeingincroydon

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    As I pointed out a few months ago, the Leave campaign were hinting at or even promising things that they're pretending they didn't ever since Cameron thought it was a bright idea to gamble to country's future on trying to nick a tiny percentage of votes from UKIP voters. Case in point, Arron Banks was talking about how we'd be using the Norway model as far back as December 2015, while a month before the vote Gove was at an official Leave press conference stating that we would remain in the customs union no matter what - and both are easy enough to find, no matter what they assume, and I can say that because I posted these (among other things) a couple of months ago in this thread.
     
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