Match Day Thread Premier League, Cups & Euro Watch

[Solid Air]

passing it backwards until your cbs and keeper have no option but to lump it is not retaining possession first off.

second just take a quick look at exactly how English club's got through.

a) Liverpool. lose 3 away games. played god awful to be quite honest. did well in first home game after conceding. were 3-1 up and still tried another goal in. then won against a **** red star team and absolutely narrow squeaker v napoli in a game was was absolutle ****. technically **** now.

b) city... piss easy group.

c) Utd. do you not remember their group and Valencia...

d) spurs. do you not remember they were all but out but inter Milan absolutely threw it away??

let's call a spade a spade. there's one team in England with some technical.players who focus on retaining ball with view to creating chances. city.

they are on for a quadruple for a reason.

utd had a good run. they were embarrassed v pgs and then caught them sleeping second leg with dodgy pen

not our fault if them damn foreigners have no bottle and throw it away but you are right all English teams are ****e no "technical" players ply their trade in the PL and all those European trophies stacked up in English club trophy rooms were all pure flukes.
You do realise these same comments were being made back in the 70's whilst we were the top club in Europe .

 

[Solid Air]

Mito is spot on that we are always going to struggle producing technically better players.

The basic fact is that in England, even the young kids play on bloody big pitches, being 6ft tall at 13 is a big advantage when you've got alot of ground to cover, even at local level the kids teams are chock full of the biggest lads they can get their hands on, it's all pace.

If your good with the ball, but a bit small or on the heavy side your not bothered with.

but they are being produced the problem is getting them game time.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

You make it sound like City are average and the rest poor.

Well I don't mean to par se.

I'm just saying technically speaking the English league values different skills to other countries.

I especially did not intend to make city sound average I did say they are in for quadruple for a reason, technical skills are much more in force.

yet even for example pep wanted shut of aguero cos he saw him as being a player who needed those balls in that more often than not just lose the ball. even pep had to admit stuff I is just that demand good he had to keep him.

 

[InBiscanWeTrust]

Weird game Netherlands v Germany. Germany dominated first half, 2-0 up and since HT Netherlands have been in control and got it back to 2-2.

Depay has looked very good when ever seen him for Netherlands. Wonder if anyone is going to take another chance on him, been very good at Lyon as well. Maybe moved to United too soon and has now developed into a player that can play at top level

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

Mito is spot on that we are always going to struggle producing technically better players.

The basic fact is that in England, even the young kids play on bloody big pitches, being 6ft tall at 13 is a big advantage when you've got alot of ground to cover, even at local level the kids teams are chock full of the biggest lads they can get their hands on, it's all pace.

If your good with the ball, but a bit small or on the heavy side your not bothered with.

yes exactly. we are putting kids on basically full sized pitches at 12 and 14 even in our elite.academies and underage leagues that Liverpool play in.

You don't need to be near an 11 a side game.learning how to be a full back or a central midfield or centre half or whatever at even 14.

you need to be focused on skills and touches.

that my opinion anyway.

we make a lot of the types you see in cheslea academy. power is valued. ability to run, pace.

where's the Gazza? scholes?

like... Gerrard for us.. fabulous player but a big big part of his game was athletic you aactually only got glimpses of his ability to play in tight spaces cos of how he played.

I used to get in early to watch warm ups of players as you really got a feel for ability. one of the absolute best players I've seen in terms of striking a ball was actaully Rooney but again.. start the game and it's all strength and running and ****. he could do a he'll of a lot on the ball.

 

[Zanjinho]

Weird game Netherlands v Germany. Germany dominated first half, 2-0 up and since HT Netherlands have been in control and got it back to 2-2.

Depay has looked very good when ever seen him for Netherlands. Wonder if anyone is going to take another chance on him, been very good at Lyon as well. Maybe moved to United too soon and has now developed into a player that can play at top level

Lots of rumours we're interested but can't see it myself

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

Weird game Netherlands v Germany. Germany dominated first half, 2-0 up and since HT Netherlands have been in control and got it back to 2-2.

Depay has looked very good when ever seen him for Netherlands. Wonder if anyone is going to take another chance on him, been very good at Lyon as well. Maybe moved to United too soon and has now developed into a player that can play at top level

there are several examples out there like say zaha who've looked better when just played and valued.

dembele at Barca is after getting a bit more time and he was well on his way to ****ing himself up.

it'll be interesting for sure to see if someone takes a punt. he won't be cheap out of lyon.

 

[THE FOOL]

but they are being produced the problem is getting them game time.

There is a fair number of English lads in the game, I'm not just talking about the premier League. They are all the same, can run like **** and get stuck in.

For the sheer amount of teams we have in this country we should be producing a much more varied type of player, but we don't we churn out the same type of player all the time.

 

[THE FOOL]

yes exactly. we are putting kids on basically full sized pitches at 12 and 14 even in our elite.academies and underage leagues that Liverpool play in.

You don't need to be near an 11 a side game.learning how to be a full back or a central midfield or centre half or whatever at even 14.

you need to be focused on skills and touches.

that my opinion anyway.

we make a lot of the types you see in cheslea academy. power is valued. ability to run, pace.

where's the Gazza? scholes?

like... Gerrard for us.. fabulous player but a big big part of his game was athletic you aactually only got glimpses of his ability to play in tight spaces cos of how he played.

I used to get in early to watch warm ups of players as you really got a feel for ability. one of the absolute best players I've seen in terms of striking a ball was actaully Rooney but again.. start the game and it's all strength and running and ****. he could do a he'll of a lot on the ball.

I agree completely, pace,power and fitness are the most important things.

Being able to kick the ball hard is also seen as an important trait.

Kids should be training and playing on five a side pitches, reduce the space improve touch, technique and speed of thought.

Power and pace will come regardless as they grow up, keeping the ball under pressure must be practiced.

 

[InBiscanWeTrust]

I agree completely, pace,power and fitness are the most important things.

Being able to kick the ball hard is also seen as an important trait.

Kids should be training and playing on five a side pitches, reduce the space improve touch, technique and speed of thought.

Power and pace will come regardless as they grow up, keeping the ball under pressure must be practiced.

Said for a number of years that competitive youth football is a disadvantage. Should be no competition/league football until you get to 14/15 really as all it does is focus team on winning at all costs which mean passing the ball around isn’t encouraged at the back for risk of losing the ball and conceding.

 

[Bumps]

Said for a number of years that competitive youth football is a disadvantage. Should be no competition/league football until you get to 14/15 really as all it does is focus team on winning at all costs which mean passing the ball around isn’t encouraged at the back for risk of losing the ball and conceding.

Totally agree
I am managing an under 8 team atm
My pet peeve is opposition sticking one up top and just lumping the ball in their general direction to win the game.

I really could not give a monkeys whether we have won or lost as long as they have had a good time and are looking to pass the ball.
No idea if i am right but that the way we doing it.

Would recommend getting involved to anyone, its amazing watching them develop
They just want to play its great

 

[Peej]

I'm just saying England will never make technical players at home.

even if you are looking at what is being sought it's sancho, Hudson odoi, lookman.

pace and power.

the English game and academy's won't make a David Silva type. (another name there)

Hardly a stream of Silvas in this world, an exceptional player who comes along once in a blue moon

 

[Peej]

I'm just saying England will never make technical players at home.

even if you are looking at what is being sought it's sancho, Hudson odoi, lookman.

pace and power.

the English game and academy's won't make a David Silva type. (another name there)

Hardly a stream of Silvas in this world, an exceptional player who comes along once in a blue moon

 

[HugoEkitikeN01]

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[Peej]

yes exactly. we are putting kids on basically full sized pitches at 12 and 14 even in our elite.academies and underage leagues that Liverpool play in.

You don't need to be near an 11 a side game.learning how to be a full back or a central midfield or centre half or whatever at even 14.

you need to be focused on skills and touches.

that my opinion anyway.

we make a lot of the types you see in cheslea academy. power is valued. ability to run, pace.

where's the Gazza? scholes?

like... Gerrard for us.. fabulous player but a big big part of his game was athletic you aactually only got glimpses of his ability to play in tight spaces cos of how he played.

I used to get in early to watch warm ups of players as you really got a feel for ability. one of the absolute best players I've seen in terms of striking a ball was actaully Rooney but again.. start the game and it's all strength and running and ****. he could do a he'll of a lot on the ball.

Local youth teams now play 9 a side with smaller football and only 20 mins each way, smaller pitch, smaller goals. Helped with coaching and on the smaller pitches it’s all about control and movement, not who can chase a long ball. Things have changed a lot since my early days, it’s not just busy no the fat kid in goal and big kid at the back and fast kid up front n

 

[THE FOOL]

Local youth teams now play 9 a side with smaller football and only 20 mins each way, smaller pitch, smaller goals. Helped with coaching and on the smaller pitches it’s all about control and movement, not who can chase a long ball. Things have changed a lot since my early days, it’s not just busy no the fat kid in goal and big kid at the back and fast kid up front n

The pitch my eldest plays on could be half the size and they would still have plenty of room. After an hour they trudge off absolutely shattered, but most of them have only touched the ball a handful of times, but they've run up and down an awful lot.

It's a general problem with youth football though, winning at all cost by far to young. Every coach says the same "I just want them to be happy playing" but the majority then go for the biggest lads and play kick and rush.

There is a youth side by us that wins alot, wins the league every year come what may. I tell you know, they look ****ing miserable, they can be 10 nil up and are still terrified of loosing the ball for the moaning from the coach and parents.

 

[HugoEkitikeN01]

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[THE FOOL]

Totally agree
I am managing an under 8 team atm
My pet peeve is opposition sticking one up top and just lumping the ball in their general direction to win the game.

I really could not give a monkeys whether we have won or lost as long as they have had a good time and are looking to pass the ball.
No idea if i am right but that the way we doing it.

Would recommend getting involved to anyone, its amazing watching them develop
They just want to play its great

Hats off to you, it takes alot to be a coach, I've helped out and the kids where great, but the ****ing parents, oh lord!

 

[jenners04]

Only my opinion.

Why not have kids play on similar size pitch to hockey until they get to 16 etc rather than full size which is usually too much for them?

 

[RogerisontheHunt]

Only my opinion.

Why not have kids play on similar size pitch to hockey until they get to 16 etc rather than full size which is usually too much for them?

Which type?

Proper Hockey, not that slippery ****, is played on the same sized pitch as football