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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. danishqp

    danishqp Well-Known Member

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    My Magrethe Vestager being heavily tipped as next EU Commisioner.
    Ironic that she is very, very pro UK.
    Classy, classy, sassy lady.

    Have I mentioned before that I’m quite fond of Magrethe?
     
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  2. GoldhawkRoad

    GoldhawkRoad Well-Known Member

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    I think, both equally. The EU wasn't referred to in the polling question
     
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  3. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    May's outburst was plain embarrassing, and showed once again that she's wholly unfit for her position. I heard Chris Wilkins, her erstwhile Director of Strategy, on the wireless earlier saying that every time May is faced with a 50:50 choice she makes the wrong decision. There is no one to blame for the position we find ourselves in now but May herself and her pandering to the DUP fundamentalists and ERG loons. All she had to do was to seek a cross-party compromise after her deal failed the first time and we'd be out of the EU next Friday. She bet the farm and lost, twice. The one good thing about this whole fiasco, though, is that the Tories will be doomed whatever happens next.
     
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  4. YorkshireHoopster

    YorkshireHoopster Well-Known Member

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    No dissent from me about that
     
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  5. GoldhawkRoad

    GoldhawkRoad Well-Known Member

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    From what you say, so am I
     
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  6. YorkshireHoopster

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    Twice only? I think she has cocked it up rather more times.
     
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  7. GoldhawkRoad

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    You're at odds with the public, if Sky's poll can be trusted. May's negotiating skills are crap, but many MP's have behaved appallingly
     
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  8. Stroller

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    It's not her negotiating skills so much as her awful decision making and unwillingness to listen to reason that's the problem. The MPs that have behaved worst are the ERG, but she keeps bowing to them. I'm actually getting to the point where I want us to leave without a deal just to see those ****ers exposed for the traitors they are.
     
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    Hilarious nonsense.

    Your faith in the rest of the buffoons in parliament is ridiculous.
     
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  10. GoldhawkRoad

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    That's from your Remain perspective, but the ERG and DUP have the 2016 referendum result on their side. All these motions to take control away from an elected government is shocking imo.

    I'm still not convinced the EU will let a no deal happen. Member premieres are starting to have their say. They have an electorate to answer to, unlike the Brussels fat cats
     
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  11. Stroller

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    Like Bercow, they are just doing their jobs in holding Government to account. May negotiated a bad deal, but thought she could bully it through Parliament. She's failed twice and will likely fail again. She's made this country a laughing stock.
     
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  12. kiwiqpr

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    i cant work out anymore who the traitors are
     
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  13. As stings in the tail go that's a belter <laugh> Agree with every word
     
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  14. Stroller

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    They won't want to let No Deal happen, but if May's deal fails again and she refuses to go back with an alternative plan, it will. I think she is bloody-minded and foolhardy enough to just let it happen and her pathetic outburst last night was designed to try to absolve herself of blame when it does. History (and the electorate) won't look kindly.
     
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    I've just finished reading people close to May (hardt too believe there are any) say she went No Deal on Wednesday night. To be precise at 01.06 GMT when her hard disc crashed
     
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    See the petition vote is climbing like a rocket
    Interesting to see where it finishes

    Over 1/2 million since it went live again this evening
     
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    And yet she's popular in the polls...and the public blame MP's more. A lot of people admire her resilience
     
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    Eddie the Eagle was popular with the British public. We tend to like a plucky loser, even if they're plainly unqualified for their job.
     
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    Her motherboard is f*cked, so are we...
     
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  20. GoldhawkRoad

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    I think a lot of the public see May's task in uniting the various factions as the equivalent of Eddie achieving gold
     
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