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  1. The Ides of March

    The Ides of March Well-Known Member

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    He is one of the few Tories with any integrity. As we all know UKIP has taken over the soul of the Conservative party. God how I miss the good old days when we had never had it so good with New Labour, and further back under the greatest British PM of the 20th century, Harold Wilson.
     
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  2. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    do you know what is so.ironic.

    the stupid erg push a no confidence in may and failed. she is literally pushing a no deal brexit right in front of them.

    this all hinges on labour who have opposed deal every time.for.political gain.
     
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  3. astro

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    What are you supposed to do when you're the opposition to a government intent on throwing the country under the bus?

    Do you think the opposition should turn up to parliament every day and just say "well you got more votes years ago so we must respect that fact by voting through every single one of your policies without any debate or hindrance"?

    Opposition is a necessary part of democracy not the denial of it
     
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  4. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    She shut Labour out, not their fault there was nothing they could do... except commit political suicide. They perhaps should've gone and taken a delegate to the EU to ask about a Customs Union and then put pressure on her when her deal was floundering.
     
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  5. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    think rationally?

    the withdrawal deal is in fact a pay off. from here.... you could take it and if you are serious about a customs union then work for it.

    all the so called bad bits of withdrawal deal will be moot.

    really ****ing simple.

    so why do labour oppose for sake of opposing.

    I can understand snp. they want remain but also independence so opposing delivers their long term view of the best Scotland from their point of view.

    But labour? they just want power but not right now until brexit is done and to blame Tories etc.
     
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  6. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    simple answer..... don't make things worse
     
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  7. Tobes

    Tobes Warden
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    Labour rejected the deal as they thought it was ****e.

    Her complete belligerence and total inability to tell the public the ugly and quite simple truth, has brought about this debacle. Bribing MP’s with it’s this or something we all know will be a absolute disaster for this country, is politically spineless. Playing party politics with the future of the nation.
     
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  8. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    the reality is it's 500 odd pages of **** thst everyone's labelled may deal ergo is bad.

    the reality is the UK have to pay to leave and resolve the Irish question. after that it's only bad due to placating dup and only bad in the eyes of Brexiteers as it prevents their excessive rave to deregulate

    if it said "customs union" like corbyn throws about (but doesn't want) would you call it bad?
     
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  9. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    the one fact remains.

    the house can fire may but it required mps to actually break with Tory party.
     
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  10. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    More like blackmail than bribery. It's bare-faced cynical politics of the worst kind.
     
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  11. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    How can Newsnight have a clearly racist UKIP party member on their show. Even Farage doesn't want anything to do with it ffs!
     
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  12. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    Interesting stuff on Newsnight... two political analysts did a little flow chart based on outcomes. They both predict the least likely is a No Deal.

    They've gone with MV3 - if that passes then EU gives short extension followed by Indicative Votes and Tory Leadership Election or General Election.

    - if she loses MV3 then EU WILL give us a long extension followed by Indicative Votes and Tory Leadership or General Election.

    Meanwhile the UKIP woman instead of giving her honest prediction simply says "the public want No Deal so that is the default position, nothing else matters" When she's asked what happens with the Irish border she is caught out in a flagrant lie "No need to worry about that, we just carry on as we are" IT'S THIS SORT OF BARE-FACED ****ISH LYING THAT FCKS ME OFF ABOUT THESE UTTER ****S.
     
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  13. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    Just turned over to Peston on ITV and it was television GOLD <laugh>

    He's interviewing the Labour MP and a Tory MP. And the tory MP (Phillip Lee) says "I cannot believe this man (Farage) is still on TV, he's been peddling racist nonsense, he's been persuading people with this populist trope CRAP!!! And it has poisoned politics and it has poisoned public discourse and it amazes me he still has traction"

    Half way through this they cut to Farage who's stood in the audience the look on his face is priceless <laugh>

    <applause><applause><applause>

    Phillip Lee is now my favourite Tory and that is fcking rare.
     
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  14. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Dreamland.

    As of now long extension is off the table.

    The only thing that's obvious is win or lose when she goes for this vote may is out
     
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  15. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    certain eu countries are rebelling







    only problem is they want UK out on time.... no extensions. don't let door hit you on way out.
     
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  16. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    please log in to view this image
     
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  17. LuisDiazgamechanger

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  18. RogerisontheHunt

    RogerisontheHunt Well-Known Member

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    Jesus thats dangerous thinking, tensions in N Ireland are at their highest since 1997 at the moment, now no dealers are proposing N Ireland (who voted overwhelming to leave) virtually stay in the EU and have different laws to the rest of the UK. How long before the fighting starts again?
    Either that or the whole of the UK keeps its boarders open, then what would be the point of Brexit?

    Thus lies the problem with No Dealers, they've got no ****ing clue what to do, they're just xenophobic little islanders
     
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  19. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    EU reject 3 month extension.
     
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  20. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    knew it.

    I presume it's accept the deal or **** off
     
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