The official all things terrorism thread

TBH Joe I don't think it ever went away.

I think there was a lack of reporting and a reluctance to label it certain ways.

Pigs heads at mosques were reported as some sort of retaliation after 9/11 etc but I honestly cant remember a time it didn't happen.

Likes of C18 have never gone away and I recall an incident where they turned up at an orange man's parade in Southport and glassed a kid, as well as ruckus with the Marchers. And I left Southport in 96 so it was before then

 

From two reports so far...

Police said the shooting appeared to be a terrorist incident but, at a press conference on Monday evening, a prosecutor said it could have been motivated by "family reasons".

Mr Tanis was known to Dutch police, the prosecutor added.

A local businessman told BBC Turkish that Gokmen Tanis had previously fought in Russia's republic of Chechnya.

Jihadist groups, including those aligned with the Islamic State (IS) group, have long operated in the region.

"He was arrested because of his connections with [IS] but released later," the businessman told the BBC.

And...

Dutch justice minister Fred Grapperhaus said the suspect "was known" to authorities and had a criminal record.

He said: "Yes, the suspect was known within the justice department. He had a criminal record. That is indeed what we know. I can give no more details."

Turkey's official Andadolu news agency also cited family members of the gunman, who said he had fired at a relative on the tram and later shot at others who tried to help her.

Prime Minister Mark Rutte said the country had been "jolted by an attack", which he described as "deeply disturbing".

"There are many questions and rumours," he said. "It is unclear what the motives are behind this attack."

Local networks said the suspect was in court two weeks ago on charges of raping a woman in 2017. The networks also said he had been charged several times over the past few years, including attempted manslaughter and petty crime in and around Utrecht.

Speaking at the same news conference, prime minister Mark Rutte said three of the wounded are critically injured. "There was an attack today in the Netherlands - if it had terror motives, that is being investigated. But it was very serious. The world shares our grief."

 

IF these reports are true. Its not terrorism. He's clearly a criminal who's went nuts.

 

A list of the 96 far right terrorist murders then please.

It was you that said since 2001 and threw in Stephen Lawrence who died in 1993.

 

Move to 2015 when Angela Merkel had her Bob Geldoff moment after watching TV and allowed a million refugees (and economic migrants) to walk into Europe, unchecked. Do you think the far right are worse since then?

 

Phew he's just a criminal rapist that carries a gun and shoots people, that's ok then .

 

If it was his relative he shot then I think so, but if it wasn't then I still have my doubts tbh. But that's just my thinking so far, we'll probably hear more about this. He's a **** either way and hopefully never sees the light of day again.

 

Not sure if it’s been brought up but them there Muslims do some horrible and terrorist type stuff that needs condemning.



Take this as my condemnation

 

In general or the Turkish rapey gun toting murderer in Holland today?

He picked a bad day to shoot people in public , peeps be jumpy and start accusing him of being a terrorist .

Over reaction or what?

 

Not sure where you got that from. He's a rapist murderer, I'd like to personally be the one that sends him swinging from the Tyne bridge.

 

Not listened to the news today but I would condemn and shooting of innocents or rapey actions

 

Hands up. I done that too when it come out that he was Turkish.

 

I know this is a small matter in the grand scheme of things... but he's not been convicted of rape

 

Oh. I thought he'd been convicted of it.

Did I read it's not his first time being arrested for it? **** it, it sounds like he's done it anyway. Rapey ****

 

So why was rape brought up?? Has he been accused? Seems a strange thing to say if not

 

Local networks said the suspect was in court two weeks ago on charges of raping a woman in 2017. The networks also said he had been charged several times over the past few years, including attempted manslaughter and petty crime in and around Utrecht.

I just included it because it was in the news report

 

Rape pmsl

 

It's in the IRR report.

 

I personally wouldn't say so. If anything more immigration in the past saw far right activities go underground simply due to not feeling as brave when numbers favoured those they were trying to intimidate and hurt.

The biggest impact has been the change in language by the le penns of the world. Which saw a sort of "respectability" given to previous right wingers. Add in brexit and likes of farage and the heads appeared above the parapet for those who largely remained silent

Then money became an issue, as in funding. So prevent being told to include right wingers under the terror banner has seen incidents being highlighted more.


Generally though it's never gone away. I lived near the Adair family for a bit and the son (mad pup as the dad was mad dog) was involved in attacks including weapons with his cronies before the whole 9/11 sort of thing or mass EU immigration.

 

Not all 96 were black, mate. Not all of the attacks were regarded as racially motive, neither. The IRR decided they'd know more than the courts and classed them as racially motivated.

I've just dug further. One case not listed was Chris Yates, a white man killed by 3 Pakistani men because that was a 'drunk fueled rampage' even though the attackers used racial words.

'The IRR began to concentrate on responding to the needs of Black people and making direct analyses of institutionalised racism in Britain and the rest of Europe.'

Excuse me for thinking that the IRR has an agenda...