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The official all things terrorism thread

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Saf, Mar 15, 2019.

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  1. Diego

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    Wasn't then, is now.
     
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  2. Diego

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    Do they have the possibility of citizenship elsewhere?
     
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    Well let's walk through it together.

    #notall criminals have their citizenship revoked, there would need to be a certain criteria like say moving to the Middle East to join a terrorist group .

    The Mcanns if ever found guilty would be jailed in the UK for a long time .
    Stripping them of their passports would be pointless .

    If Kate Mcann went to join Isis then I would not want her back in the country and would be happy for the home office to strip her of her citizenship.

    Don't think I can put it any clearer than that.
     
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    C18 and likes of white wolves we're/are terrorists as per @brb definitions earlier. Existed since the early 90's

    The prevent agenda only focussed on Muslims initially. It was Wales who wanted right wingers to be included. Funnily enough because they had no Muslim incidents and couldn't access the funds
     
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    Didn't make a difference for begum.

    The chechyan pm made a good point and it's a good question "if a person is born or raised in the uk (in his case Paris), then why is it the fault of the parents country of origin if they commit an atrocity?"
     
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    Glad you changed that mate because I just don't deserve the first version.
     
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    I wouldn't disagree, the fact is everything is blamed on terrorist these days where as before we just had racists which is much nearer the truth.
     
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    Lol. Yeah fack knows what happened there.

    Interestingly C18 has had major arrests in Australia where caches of weapons were found and plans to attack mosques

    Iirc a couple of mosques were shot up with high power rifles. Arrests we're made.

    I say interestingly due to the NZ attacks being done by an Aussie.

    Coincidence?
     
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    I'm not sure tbh. I lived in an area (as a kid) where there was a NF presence in the 80's. Sure felt like terrorism

    These types don't just utter nasties as the walk or drive past. They literally terrorise the local immigrants. Burning places of worship and even killing folk.

    Lynching of black folk wasn't called terrorism but it was imo
     
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    But there was a possibility of her gaining second citizenship.
    As I have said before though, if she has committed any crimes against the UK then she should face UK courts (the only ones I can genuinely think of are stealing a passport). Other than that, if she has committed any provable crimes in Syria she should stand trial there and face the concequences.
     
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    Sorry, how stupid of me, i thought Begum was born in the UK....actually ENGLAND....LONDON...whereas Gerry was born in Scotland...i wonder what happens if they seek independence <whistle> i just hope there is no parental Republic of Ireland link because that will blow your boat straight out the water, although they might be safe because i think the last name descends from County Armagh :)
     
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    Not convinced with the citizenship tbh.

    Born here raised here.

    Take me who wasn't born here. I'm British citizen and have no rights to property etc where I was born. But what you say arguably means I could be sent back
     
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    No coincidence, my lad did a 12 month tour of Aus a few years back and said anti Muslim feelings were very high then. There were reports of gangs walking along beaches kicking sand over girls in bikinis because they were showing too much (son never saw it but read reports of it so no idea how true they were).
    If true this would not help the situation in a country that lives on the beach.
     
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    Not what I say, I am talking they way the law seems to work.
    I only got into this to answer brb about his "white middle class" people <laugh>
     
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    They have British passports in Scotland .

    If the Portugese legal system found the Mcanns guilty of killing their child then a custodial sentence in Portugal would have been handed down .

    If Begum had her three children die in Portugal then she may have been quizzed over the deaths .
     
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    Iirc the beach battles had begun when 5000 Aussie youth had gone round beating up middle easterners. Some middle easterner youth retaliated and it went on for a bit
     
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    Really have no idea, I only know that when the lad was their racism was high so I am not overly surprised it's the same today.
     
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    I just googled it. It was cronulla (sp). And was circa 2005
     
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    The date sounds good, is cronulla a small town because that is where it was supposed to have started.
     
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    No idea tbh.


    The mosque shootings etc were circa 2010
     
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