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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Sounds more like an indictment of the careerist politician who are in the game in the hope of getting a couple of lucrative gigs once they get bored of playing politician to me, what with so much of the text being about themselves and their brand and a scant mention of the constituency at the bottom that looks suspiciously like it was tagged on by somebody else

    The fact there's a chunk of MPs who can be directly compared to Apprentice candidates is an issue...
     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    In other news, here's what the waffling gargoyle does as soon as he's finished standing up and talking about something other than the debate he's attended that just so happens to be fodder for his Youtube channel
     
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  3. deedub93

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    Interesting in parliament today, the chimps tea party has started again. Jacob Sleaze-Bag's amendment to rule out a second referendum not being heard, much to his disdain, but the most interesting one, Chris Bryant's amendment to block MV3. If that passes, it will be down to revoking A50 or the legal Default Position, which is a Clean Brexit on the 29th. The government have said that they will not allow Britain to fall off the cliff, and they have no plans to revoke A50. They might have to rethink that one. More exciting than a NLD.

    My money is on revoke A50 at the last knockings if Bryant's Amendment is passed.

    <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  4. redwhiteandermblue

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    Boeing decided to include an elementary level piece of safety technology on its new model of plane. Due to that decision, one hundred odd people died. Boeing blamed the pilots and the airline. It resisted calls to ground and recall the model. Now another one of its new models has crashed, apparently due to the same piece of technology. Boeing blames Trump. It continues to resist calls to ground and recall the model. I wonder whose fault it will be next time.

    Boeing created the chassis of a robot I worked on. We had to send it back to them because it didn't meet specifications, and they had to start again from scratch, which didn't do wonders for our timeline. Tbf, for all I know it was a mistake on our end, but I would continue to guess otherwise.
     
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  5. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    May is only interested in pushing her deal. **** the fact that it's a **** deal, she wants it passed....no matter what.

    The question is now whether sufficient Tory MP's have the interests of the country ahead of their party and its detestable leader? Or whether the ERG loonies and DUP actually mean what they say about the Backstop?

    Are MP's really going to opt for May's dictatorial path, that they and everyone else knows will damage the country, because she won't admit defeat and opt for something that the vast majority of relatively sensible central left/right MP's and Brits could support?

    It looks like tonight's the night and it has to be better to get it done in the open, now, than let her pick off the waverers one by one in the remaining days?
     
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  6. deedub93

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    Bercow clearly wants to block MV3 because although the default position is leave with no deal on the 29th, that isn't going to happen, so if her deal isn't agreed, then the only way to stop a no deal is to revoke A50, as there is not time for another Act of Parliament, Sleaze-Bag and his associate's would talk it out.
     
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    If A50 is revoked, then I guess the Euro elections become the
    second referendum, and the "leave" parties will campaign on
    leaving under WTO rules as a key policy.

    Apart from the potential bloodbath to the UK incumbent parties,
    with the likely surge in votes for Euro populist parties, I wonder if
    the EU has calculated what close to 70 odd anti-EU UK MEPs
    could do to the "block" numbers in their parliament.
     
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  8. yossarian

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  9. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    May continues to believe that being PM means she can act the exact same way she did when she made the Home Office her personal fiefdom that she ruled with an iron fist, where her word was the word of God and must be obeyed to the letter at risk of unemployment, banishment, or being the target of a pile of complete and utter bollocks about easter eggs

    What she has not learned in the last three years is that, as Home Secretary, she was never really accountable to anyone barring those rare instances where either Cameron or an EU/UN body stepped in, which is the reason she was able to destroy the Windrush landing cards or create the hostile environment policy - yet as PM she is held accountable for her actions, both by her own party and by the Opposition, yet she continues to think that she can just bulldoze through what she wants no matter how many times she loses in the Commons because she's Theresa May and she must be obeyed at all costs, and as a result she looks like a deranged dictator sitting in her palace as the uprising is kicking down the front gate
     
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  10. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Apparently, she's been pulling the dissenters in one by one and no doubt threatening to expel them from the party or try and have them deselected. The DUP look like they're going to fold...it's going to be close.

    Are their enough old fashioned One Nation Tories or ERG loonies who will tell her to poke her deal where it belongs? I hope so.
     
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  11. The RDBD

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    If they are "leave" MPs in "remain" constituencies, the electorate
    will probably do that for her. An avid "leave" MP in a "leave"
    constituency can of course always threaten to go independent.
     
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  12. yossarian

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    It has now become about her ego rather than doing what's best for the UK (and Ireland). If she wanted to do what was best, taking into account the current opinion polls, the commons gridlock and considering the Good Friday Agreement, she would propose a 2nd referendum herself.

    Instead, stung by the largest commons defeat ever by a sitting government she'll keep presenting the same deal until she wins so she can wipe out the shame.
     
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  13. deedub93

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    The DUP knows she's finished so they will probably sell their vote for another 'large wedge'. All of them are in it for themselves, they need to make hay while the Sun is shining.
     
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  14. deedub93

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    Not if Chris Brunt's amendment is passed tonight, watch this space.
     
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  15. yossarian

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    Someone needs to exhume the Leo Amery quote to Chamberlain that itself quoted Oliver Cromwell to the Long Parliament:

    "You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go."
     
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  16. humanbeingincroydon

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    Brunt > Soubry?
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    This could possibly put and end to the obergruppenfuhrer’s little games...

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-andrea-leadsom-commons-speaker-a8822846.html
     
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  18. deedub93

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    OK Chris Bryant.
     
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  20. humanbeingincroydon

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    Been a while since the ol' xG-buster's been given an airing
     
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