Off Topic UK politics and brexit ramblings

that was second one based on what was being said later.

I said 140 to beat the spread. the safey safey pundits wouldnt go over 100

 

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just a summary:

235 tories voted for the deal... to leave the EU with a deal
4 independants (not the lot of the gobshites) voted for the deal
3 labour party members voted for it.

So.....

now those who voted against (which by extension is a vote for no deal brexit by law)

238 labour voted against deal despite voting for the withdrawal act that tells them clearly they just voted for no deal brexit. they voted to get a general election.
75 conservatives voted against cos the want a hard brexit (no deal)
35 SNP voted for no deal brexit cos they want to remain (like self hamr this)
11 TIG gobshits voted agasint cos they are basically for remain
10 DUP voted no cos they want a boarder wall to keep the fenian hordes at bay
4 plaid did what the snp told them
1 green thought she was doing the environment a favour (when the fracking goes into overdrives in no deal brexit land this should be fun)


so...... thesepoeple who voted no... they assume i think as many do that

a) they will carry a no to no deal today
b) they will carry a rescinding of the withdrawal act they already passed to change date
c) that everyone one of the 27 eu sates will agree to extension.

the reality is the 75 conservatives who voted no would have been enough to deliver their brexit yesterday. they decided this course and are the biggest offenders.

But when the crash out happens the others can't crow cos they caused it just as much.

 

What should be ****ing ilegal and challenged at all costs is a lot of the voting that has happened is for self serve or for party gains.

**** the country and the people it seems. They all live in a ****ing bubble anyway ****s!!!

 

there is historical precidence for these events.

World war 2.

Chamberlain is standing up and debating norway and the conservatives turn on him. he wins a vote of no confidence called in him by labour but then resigns 2 days later letting Churchill in

Was labour serving the country or themselves in 1940?

 

So world war 3 is not far off then

koreans, russians or someone else?

 

clearly is round 3 of the jerries v the tommies.

 

I'm jsut saying that at critical times in the past politicians have voted for self interest

 

I think it should be challenged personally. And if they cant justify why, should not be allowed to be an mp.

They are supposed to represent whats best for their constitutes and the country not their own political careers.

****s the lot of them

 

if they could stand up in 1940 when the county was on the edge of invasion and destruction and throw in a politically opportunistic shot (but i'm sure it was to force chamberlain out) then why wouldn't they do it now.

 

Is it not time for people to pause the Brexit juggernaut. Do people really want it in an era of Trump, Putin and Xi ? Do the advantages of Brexit really outnumber the disadvantages?

 

No.

 

well nato trumps ( pun intended) the eu.

the eu really is just a trade federation. The biggest on the planet ( in terms of countries)

If we want to worry about war its NATO that is the alliance of note.

 

I was thinking of the power of these countries in terms of trade and commercial influence rather than war. Trump is worried about the power of the EU so is Putin. Why do you think they both are so much in favour of Brexit? Love of the British of course

 

Hammond



So basically he is saying that its a land of milk and honey IF we leave with a deal (lies)

but not deal



disaster apparently

 

so.... may basically asks everyone to vote for a no deal. but half her cabinet abstain on word they can and not be fired

a small but being called no to no deal. 40 odd votes.

already being called non binding.

on to tomorrow where frankly anything could happen. There is not the votes to pass an extension imo.

the Brexiteers and dup will line up so it will require a big split in Tories to carry.

 

Hahahahaha!!!. No no, no no no no, no no no no, no no there's no no deal Brexit! Made up.

 

I'd like to know just how the **** they proceed now.

 

the vote tomorrow first... if it says extension then the pm has to put legislation forward to remove 29th march fro withdrawal act, that has to pass.

then what do eu do? tell us to go back to day 1? figure out what the **** we want before coming back to do again?

 

Imagine you're the hedge fund managers for Mogg, Redwood and Murdoch tonight.

 

No confidence vote in May. Two weeks to form a government of national unity under a moderate like Grieve or Soubry. Pass through a Norway-style Brexit (even Peter Hichens wants one now). GE after a three year bedding in period in May 2022. Take all the home made guns off the Brexiteers.