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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Garlic Klopp, Dec 3, 2018.

  1. Uncle Colm

    Uncle Colm Dullcrusher

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    Tommy Robinson himself is the self-proclaimed son of Irish parents. No problem with that -I'm from Liverpool and have an Irish granny, and most people from Liverpool and Manchester (and probably most big cities) share a similar lineage. Just hope that he realises that with the precedence set by our esteemed Home
    Secretary, as somebody eligible for an Irish passport he could, if his next attempt at contempt of court is deemed to be political terrorism, find himself being made stateless.
     
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  2. carlthejackal

    carlthejackal Well-Known Member

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    Is there evidence of this ? If it is indeed true this may be some gut reaction to the influx of east Europeans. No restrictions. When they themselves had to go through so many hoops and had to go through so many barriers to get themselves a decent living.
     
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  3. carlthejackal

    carlthejackal Well-Known Member

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    May’s victory:

    The UK has now won the right to unilaterally declare that it is disengaging or removing the backstop should it be unsatisfied with it. But ...the EU have the right to legally challenge that move.





    Hang on. What was the original one? both parties have to agree before the backstop could be disengaged or removed.

    Originally both my neighbour and I have to agree to build a fence between our properties. Now after intense negotiations I won. I have won the right to declare the fence mine and can try to start it but the neighbour can challenge me in court.
    I am so happy that I got my originally inflexible neighbour to concede to my tough demands :bandit:
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I've no idea what she's got.

    clearly the Irish have been told to suck something up here.
     
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  5. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Nope.
     
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  6. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Its very clear the focres of political gain are out to signal this change whatever it actually is will and should be voted down.

    They are being very vociferous.

    The hard brexiteers say they are voting it down.

    The remainers in labour as saying clearly vote it down.

    Corybn the brexiteers claiming a referendum might happen is saying vote it down.

    The DUP are playing for time til they get on the mian news to say vote it down.
     
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    Future Britain: More than 150 Labour figures join new group ‘to save the party’ following resignations over Jeremy Corbyn's leadership .
     
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  8. jaffaSlot

    jaffaSlot Well-Known Member

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    So now its confirmed this new deal is as crap as ever
     
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  9. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    no idea.

    Was the original was actually crap or was that just spin as well though.. who knows.
     
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  10. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    basically we've talked ourselves into believing this is a terrible deal and now we've talked outselves into november, december, january, feburary and march GONE and we will vote no to it tonight again.


    The pint being it is the UK which offered this backstop and how its constructed not the EU. so we are saying no to ourselves.

    Thus.... once this is defeated a vote to refuse to leave without a deal is next but largely is pointless

    the only sane and logical outcome would be to extend this by 2 years, collapse the parliament and have a GE before then agreeing firmly by binding vote the terms of new withdrawal negotiations.

    (and yes a new referendum on leaving at all might be sane but theres no law against leaving and the original vote was cast that way so you have to at least start with the intent to negotiate a fresh withdrawl deal but if a party win the GE who have said referendum then thats a clear signal.
     
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  11. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    oh and May should resign immediately after vote result is known.
     
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  12. jaffaSlot

    jaffaSlot Well-Known Member

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    Really wish someone had the balls to just cancel the whole thing.
     
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    Treble and Uncle Colm like this.
  13. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    collective talking themselves into hardest of hard brexits.

    I am almost sure there won't even be a vote tomorrow cos when may loses she should resign today and then its chaos.
     
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  14. Uncle Colm

    Uncle Colm Dullcrusher

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    The queen has the power to dissolve parliament, order it to stay on AND withdraw assent to an act that has not yet become enabled. It's far from over yet.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    reports are May's husband has arrived to sit in gallery to see her getting ****ed...

    bit of a pervy move IMO :bandit:
     
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  16. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    just flicking through bbc on this brexit day

    while others are all serious and through their agendas about making out they are wroking for the good of whomever.



    this person who has a senior job perfers to post herself having lunch....
     
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  17. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Brexit deal vote to take place at 7pm
    Withdrawal Agreement Debate

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    House of Commons

    Parliament

    As the Speaker John Bercow has chosen not to select any amendments tabled to the Brexit motion, there will be a single vote on the prime minister's deal at the end of the debate.

    The debate is due to conclude at 7pm, with a result expected around 7.15pm.


    Expect may to resign about 7:30pm



    I am seeing talk of a 3rd vote if defeat is <50 votes. that shows how deluded this is.

    10 DUp and however many ERG is more than enough to make a 100 vote defeat if the labour vote is "disciplined"

    the question is will there be a break away now and enough MPs who are stating at

    a) general election
    b) no deal
    c) general election

    will panic and vote this through. Stranger thing have happened but they really ought not to.

    The no vote to this deal aligns with Labours wants, the independents groups wants, the DUP, THE ERG, The SNP... in fact every self serving groups needs are catered for here.

    <laugh>

    the probelm is when they wake up tomorrow to no deal with no PM and no idea what to do... well...
     
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  19. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    Not enough time to select and elect a new Tory leader before 29th March so de facto Prime Minister....

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  20. Tobes

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    Rumours that the DUP & ERG might only abstain, so it’s maybe not quite over yet......
     
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