1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur v Southampton

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by PleaseNotPoll, Mar 8, 2019.

  1. Spudulike

    Spudulike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2011
    Messages:
    4,642
    Likes Received:
    2,332
    I think your post has a lot of truth to it but what I also think it does it most likely exposes that Poch's standards are above those that we can afford.

    Our transfer record to date is somewhere in the region of £42m for Davinson - a good defender who is still learning his trade and is not an automatic starter. So even then, at £42m we are still looking at players who are developing and are not automatic first team starters or world beaters!

    Let's say for arguments sake the clubs current maximum transfer figure sits at £50m. What does that buy you in today's market? For me, it neither a top tier player nor lower league dross. It's somewhere in the middle, and we haven't even touched on wages which is an entirely separate issue.

    Poch is saying no to players in that range because he doesn't want a squad filled with more deadwood that doesn't add any value to the squad and can't impact on games. So there in lies the problem.

    Poch has made us into a Champion League team that can't compete on the transfer market or get players of Champions League quality. His standards have raised the bar yet the club's transfer policy has not managed to keep pace. So he's forced to develop players which takes longer whilst utilising a smaller squad.

    This just goes to highlight how critical our new stadium is, as it needs to generate a ton of income to allow us to restructure our wages and transfer policy. If not, where do we go as Joe Lewis clearly doesn't want to inject his own capital into the club. The next year or so will reveal where we as a club are headed.
     
    #361
  2. Citizen Kane.

    Citizen Kane. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2019
    Messages:
    11,349
    Likes Received:
    17,585
    The other unknown is Levy's role - if there is one - in drastically slowing down the departure of the numerous unwanted players littering our squad. If he's holding out for £15m for Janssen or even £10m for GKN, it'll be a miracle if he gets it. And beyond that there are a number of players who really aren't good enough and could be upgraded if sold. Would he take £7m for a broken Wanyama? £15m for a broken Rose? £20m for a ****e Trippier? I highly doubt it but that is the level of bid we can expect for those players.
     
    #362
    Spurlock likes this.
  3. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2011
    Messages:
    69,699
    Likes Received:
    30,579
    Because the result wasn't the only depressing thing...
     
    #363
  4. deedub93

    deedub93 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2011
    Messages:
    12,700
    Likes Received:
    8,707
    To be fair to Southampton, we were giving it pretty large with 'Being a YID' and 'YID Army', it was pretty non-stop. I'm not saying that it was OK what they did, but if you plant a seed, don't be surprised when it grows.
     
    #364
    Spurlock likes this.
  5. Spurf

    Spurf Thread Mover Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    25,231
    Likes Received:
    15,379
    Hello C Kane welcome back. I don't think it's unknown what Levy's role is. Tottenham have a board Levy is chairman of that board. The decisions are made by the board with the Manager and as with any board the chairman's role is decisive and influential. We have seen this board operate for a number of years with a number of managers. I think it's also clear that Levy and Pochettino are probably as close as any manager and chairman have been. It's also clear IMO that the line this board has followed over the years has brought tremendous achievement and advances for Tottenham Hotspur. Based on that track record I am happy to go with their decisions on transfers or the lack of them. The long term plan is all important and finances are key to this in the professional game. Fans always want more, they always want Messi in their team it's perfectly natural but in the real world you cannot ignore how far Tottenham have come and how they are easily, yes easily the best financially run club in the Premier League.
     
    #365
  6. deedub93

    deedub93 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2011
    Messages:
    12,700
    Likes Received:
    8,707
    Many fans are saying there is an imbalance between investment in the playing staff and investment in the club. Personally I don't have an issue with ENIC but many do.

    Would it not be better if Levy moved to CEO and a non-executive Chairman was appointed?
     
    #366

  7. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2011
    Messages:
    69,699
    Likes Received:
    30,579
    Meanwhile, the squad's headed to Barcelona for a three-day training camp

    please log in to view this image


    Of course, with Spurs support being what it is, my main takeaway is that one r/coys poster who demanded several times that Poch makes the entire squad run until they puke every single day is either an Arsenal fan, a complete moron, or should be reporting their high school basketball coach to the relevant authorities...
     
    #367
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2019
  8. D.G.C.

    D.G.C. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2015
    Messages:
    3,063
    Likes Received:
    617
    I said that when it first happened at Burnley, in fact I said keep him benched and since then the execution squads have gathered. Glad you agree gericalo.

    There are a couple of articles in Newsnow Spurs about Benitez being the perfect replacement for Poch and that Poch has taken us as far as he can. I'd go for Conte but Benitez is the sort of top name who'd take us up.

    Oh, it's NO coincidence that we've been losing since Kane came back gericalo.
     
    #368
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2019
    Spurlock and BobbyD like this.
  9. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2011
    Messages:
    69,699
    Likes Received:
    30,579
  10. D.G.C.

    D.G.C. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2015
    Messages:
    3,063
    Likes Received:
    617
    #370
  11. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2011
    Messages:
    69,699
    Likes Received:
    30,579
    Brief check, do you also go on websites saying that the earth is flat and that vaccinating your children carries a risk of giving them autism?
     
    #371
  12. D.G.C.

    D.G.C. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2015
    Messages:
    3,063
    Likes Received:
    617
    No.
     
    #372
    Spurlock likes this.
  13. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2011
    Messages:
    69,699
    Likes Received:
    30,579
    So it's just the one crackpot theory that makes you sound like an uneducated pillock every time you post it only then. That's good, I suppose...
     
    #373
  14. PowerSpurs

    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2011
    Messages:
    13,073
    Likes Received:
    5,658
    FFP essentially forbids anyone injecting capital to buy players.
     
    #374
  15. PowerSpurs

    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2011
    Messages:
    13,073
    Likes Received:
    5,658
    Why would that be Levy's decision? He doesn't have the skill to value players. We have a whole team of recruitment staff to do that.
     
    #375
  16. deedub93

    deedub93 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2011
    Messages:
    12,700
    Likes Received:
    8,707
    Very true but I understand one can inject capital to pay for the stadium though, so the stadium repayments don't have to affect our transfer budget.
     
    #376
    Spurlock and BobbyD like this.
  17. D.G.C.

    D.G.C. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2015
    Messages:
    3,063
    Likes Received:
    617
    Is gericalo a crackpot and an uneducated pillock too then or is it a case of it takes one to know one?
     
    #377
    BobbyD likes this.
  18. PowerSpurs

    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2011
    Messages:
    13,073
    Likes Received:
    5,658
    Yes. And I don't expect that they will.
     
    #378
  19. BobbyD

    BobbyD President

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2013
    Messages:
    22,082
    Likes Received:
    17,912
    Not totally crackpot.

    As soon as united sold arguably their best ever finisher in rvn, they started winning the big ones again
     
    #379
    Spurlock and D.G.C. like this.
  20. PowerSpurs

    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2011
    Messages:
    13,073
    Likes Received:
    5,658
    You are both making the common mistake of drawing conclusions from limited data. In other words it us a coincidence that we've done worse since Kane became fit. What isn't a coincidence is that we've had our best ever run of finishes in the League since Kane became a starter.
     
    #380

Share This Page