Off Topic How Are You Celebrating Brexit Day ?

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Mystic Shabbs said:
Funny that. Farage was going to demand another referendum if the will of the people was in favour of Remain. Besides, if they have another referendum and it goes for Remain, that would be the will of the people too. So whats the problem.? Maybe this time it could be binding, which the last one wasn't, so another campaign of lies by Leave would render the result null.
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I don't see what's funny.

If they have another referendum (oops, sorry - a People's Vote) will the question be the same one? No it won't from what I have heard.
Labour apparently wants the question to be something like this;

1. Remain in the EU
2. Leave the EU with a workable deal (a deal that Parliament can vote for).

That is not the same question as was asked in 2016.
Option 2 is no option at all, since about 80% of MP's are remainers who will not vote for anything except an option which includes the UK remaining in the free trade and customs unions, free movement of all EU citizens in and out of the UK, and continuing to give all the money to the EU that we give it now, and obeying all EU laws and directives. In other words - Remain in the EU.

So the People's Vote as Labour and the Tory remainers would have it will actually give the British people the following choices;

1. Remain in the EU
2. Remain in the EU

Back in 2016 the Establishment did not get the result it wanted; Remain.
So the Prime Minister immediately pressed the nuclear button and resigned (something he never even hinted that he would do before the referendum), and for over two and a half years the implementation of the referendum result has been delayed and sabotaged by everybody who did not want a 'Leave' result - including the current Prime Minister (a remainer) the EU (obviously remainers) and Parliament (80% remainers).

32 months after the referendum result, has Britain left the EU? No.
Is Britain going to leave the EU on March 29th? No.
Because May has now given that decision to Parliament.

Parliament will vote her fake deal Brexit down of course.
Then they will vote down a no deal Brexit.
Then they will vote to extend Article 50 for a few months.
Then in a few months time when no progress has been made in negotiations with Brussels, Parliament will vote again, with the same results.
And so on and so on, for ever.

While in the meantime Project Fear has been fully implemented, so that the remainer establishment can abdicate responsibility by having their People's Vote, having frightened every gullible and vulnerable person in the country with their vision of food riots in shops, soldiers on the streets, Martial Law and no medicines in hospitals if Britain leaves the European Union.

The People's vote had better produce the 'right' result next time (remain) and it probably will, because

A) I won't vote again and I imagine many other 'leave' voters will also boycott it.
B) as mentioned above, there will no longer actually be a 'leave' option on the ballot paper.

Nobody in power wants Brexit.
  • The coward ex-Prime Minister Cameron didn't want it.
  • The current PM didn't want it.
  • The Banks ("German, German, Japanese, German...") don't want it.
  • Big businesses who aren't interested in democracy and just want stability to maximise their profits don't want it.
  • The UK-hating far-left extremists who now run the Labour Party and use Corbyn as their glove puppet don't want it.
  • the EU doesn't want it.
  • 80% of Parliament doesn't want it.
The only people who wanted it was 52% of the people who voted. But what they wanted doesn't count.

Why should I respect the result of a People's Vote, when the referendum result of 2016 has not been respected?
Don't ask me to vote ever again, or to have any respect for the sham of democracy in this country.
 
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Which bit of 'non binding' do you misunderstand? If it had been a binding vote, the courts would have knocked it back because of the lies told by the likes of Gove, Johnson et al.
You still talk about project fear, when every day makes it clearer it was simply a correct call. Check out the factory closure in Swindon, and the news from the Nissan plant in Sunderland. And the UK isn't out yet.
And why is it still stalling? Who believed the baloney about how new trade deals would be the easiest ever, and countries would be queueing up to trade with us? The deals aren't done because it was all lies. We are now going to be a tiny country, the negotiating power is all with the other countries, and no one wants to sign off deals much much worse than what we had.
The government are now talking about tye economy shrinking by 9% and new levels of poverty needing to be guarded against when jobs vanish. None of that was offered by Brexiteers. They lied. And they are still trying to do it.
 
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I would imagine once you leave one country you can Hunt about for the best deal available - if where you go has the Access you need, and you get a few financial incentives to set up, they'll be happy.
Where are they off to, out of interest?
 
Mystic Shabbs said:
I would imagine once you leave one country you can Hunt about for the best deal available - if where you go has the Access you need, and you get a few financial incentives to set up, they'll be happy.
Where are they off to, out of interest?
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back to an existing factory in Japan, the reason they have left Swindon is because of the drop in sales of diesel engine cars in the EU so they do not need a factory here.... especially after the EU signed a Trading Agreement with Japan reducing tariffs on car imports to zero.
 
Mystic Shabbs said:
Which bit of 'non binding' do you misunderstand? If it had been a binding vote, the courts would have knocked it back because of the lies told by the likes of Gove, Johnson et al.
You still talk about project fear, when every day makes it clearer it was simply a correct call. Check out the factory closure in Swindon, and the news from the Nissan plant in Sunderland. And the UK isn't out yet.
And why is it still stalling? Who believed the baloney about how new trade deals would be the easiest ever, and countries would be queueing up to trade with us? The deals aren't done because it was all lies. We are now going to be a tiny country, the negotiating power is all with the other countries, and no one wants to sign off deals much much worse than what we had.
The government are now talking about tye economy shrinking by 9% and new levels of poverty needing to be guarded against when jobs vanish. None of that was offered by Brexiteers. They lied. And they are still trying to do it.
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Royston Vasey said:
CEO of Honda was very clear.
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Very clear is a much overused phrase, especially in Westminster, although tbf you are right in this case.
You probably heard the report on R4 about the decline in teaching foreign languages in state schools. This decline started well before Brexit, and I can't see any benefit in it. Speaking a foreign language is something which can be a useful lifetime skill, and we are way behind many European countries. Nearly all footballers who come here can speak English plus often another language. I am trying to find a link to the mood which caused wild celebrations in Sunderland when the result of Brexit came through, and which nearly caused me to vote leave, but it's something quite intangible. Ken probably wonders what I'm on abahrt, living in Spain, and indeed it isn't very clear at all.
 
Mystic Shabbs said:
Which bit of 'non binding' do you misunderstand? If it had been a binding vote, the courts would have knocked it back because of the lies told by the likes of Gove, Johnson et al.
You still talk about project fear, when every day makes it clearer it was simply a correct call. Check out the factory closure in Swindon, and the news from the Nissan plant in Sunderland. And the UK isn't out yet.
And why is it still stalling? Who believed the baloney about how new trade deals would be the easiest ever, and countries would be queueing up to trade with us? The deals aren't done because it was all lies. We are now going to be a tiny country, the negotiating power is all with the other countries, and no one wants to sign off deals much much worse than what we had.
The government are now talking about tye economy shrinking by 9% and new levels of poverty needing to be guarded against when jobs vanish. None of that was offered by Brexiteers. They lied. And they are still trying to do it.
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More Project Fear.
The economy will shrink by 9%.
Poverty rife (like it isn't already).
No jobs, no food, no medicine, no electricity.

A Country that helped to shape the modern world and saved it from fascist tyranny not that long ago.
Now reduced to a quivering wreck, too frightened to govern itself.

Democracy in this country is on it's death bed.
It has 31 days left to live.
On March 30th if the UK has not left the EU then it is being illegally occupied by a foreign power as far as I'm concerned.
 
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The ISIS bride’s 3 week old baby has died in a Syrian refugee camp.

That’s one less wrong ‘un brought into this world.

Fvck human rights - unless that child was immediately taken into care and away from that appalling extended family, it’s path in life was guaranteed. Not just the parents - both ISIS terrorists - but also her verminous family back in the UK.

Sorry love, you made your choice and now you have to live with all of the unintended consequences :emoticon-0148-yes:

No surprise to hear that idiot Diane Abbott condemn her treatment as outrageous & inhumane this morning. It’s fair to say from the replies on Diane’s timeline that she is out of touch with normal British people - again.
 
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I take no pleasure in the news of the death of an innocent child.

But the responsibility for this tragedy - the third in as many years - lies first with his mother and her husband.
They had a choice.
He did not have to marry a naive 15 year old.
And she did not have to go to Syria and turn herself into a baby machine, in the middle of a war zone.

I'm not the greatest fan of Sajiv Javid, but he acted to protect this Country from enemies who have sworn to destroy it and kill every one of us.
 
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I see no reason why the UK should feel any responsibility for the death of her children... these deaths are the responsibility of her and her family. If she was not in Syria then this problem would not have arisen. The UK Government advised people very strongly not to go to the IS State and yet she and two of her friends did just that, OK they were only 15 but that took a lot of organising so somebody knew of their intensions.

A UK Muslim cleric has said this weekend that Bangladesh should take her in, this sounds the best solution to me.
 
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The level of knife crime among young people has reached such a level that it's getting near a national emergency. It's not just the actual stabbings, it's the youngsters who are drawn into carrying a knife for protection, thus making themselves potential murderers. Maybe I live a sheltered life, but I've never lived in this environment, neither have my kids. I assume the same is true of Not606 contributors, and it's also true of the politicians who decide policy on this matter. So I do feel they need to listen to the ones who come from this environment and have rejected the culture. There should be a cross-party approach as a matter of urgency.
 
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