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Off Topic Ospreys, Wales & BIL

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  1. PGFWhite

    PGFWhite Well-Known Member

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    Where is the WRU Chief Executive in all this? Has he made any statements to calm things down?
     
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  2. Taffvalerowdy

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    Perhaps he / his actions should be put under a microscope?
     
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  3. PGFWhite

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    I would expect it to be. Not sure it’s a good move by the Ospreys Chairman to resign though, this is a time when the region needs leadership.
     
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  4. Taffvalerowdy

    Taffvalerowdy Well-Known Member

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    Knowing Mike and Rob, I would suspect / expect that they have fully thought through and planned their tactics / strategy....

    This resignation was planned - I have no doubt about that!
     
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  5. 55282

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    Please excuse my ignorance here but am I correct in saying that England sides have not regionalised?They have kept their club identity.
    If this is the case why did we in Wales have to regionalise?
     
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  6. Taffvalerowdy

    Taffvalerowdy Well-Known Member

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    The Clubs in England remain.

    In Wales, in an attempt to optimise the use of available funding, the WRU under Moffett initially ‘artificially’ created regions - initially 5, but soon down to 4 following the demise of the Warriors.

    That said, in reality there was only one genuine Region - the Ospreys. The other 3 were in essence Llanelli, Cardiff and Newport.

    These last 3 don’t like that comment - but it is largely correct, particularly given the seamless addition / assimilation of Bridgend into what was initially the Neath Swansea Ospreys
     
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    Thanks for the reply Taff.
    Why are regions allowed to play v club sides?
    ie Europe.
     
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    The regions never captured the passion of the clubs, Warriors was a combined Vale and Valley side including Pontypridd, and Bridgend. There was never going to be a combined unifying identity. With Dragons dominating that region, all the Valley clubs appeared to be excluded from all.

    I think the problem is the marketing of the regions, the crowds are abysmal and all the money and media seems to cover England’s clubs. I think the current regions is not the issue
     
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    TV?
     
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  10. PGFWhite

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    It probably is, but from an outside point of view it looks like a tantrum and I would say it strengthens the WRU position.
     
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  11. Taffvalerowdy

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    I understand what you are saying but ....

    The WRU / PRB said in their Statement issued around 17.30 today that the new PRB has been meeting for c15 months.

    In May / June last year, the Ospreys holding Company made a Rights Issue, raising £1.5m. I suspect that those monies largely came from Davies and James.

    Why would they have stumped up those monies? They are both astute and wealthy businessmen.....

    Take a look again at 1439 overleaf <whistle>
     
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  12. PGFWhite

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    I haven't got a clue Taff, I don't follow rugby that closely! I do know enough though to have an opinion that the WRU are *********** *********** ********** (you can chose your own words to put in there!!), which makes a resignation by the Chairman appear unnecessary, unless he really means it <ok>
     
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  13. Taffvalerowdy

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    Based on what I was led to believe 12 months ago, I suspect that the comments in 1439 reflect the understanding of the Regions (or at least 1 !) at that time.

    Basically, get you finances in order, and we will reward you.........
     
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    ..and this is the reward!!

    Judgement Day will be interesting in the future, plus two of the biggest games in Welsh Regional rugby will be lost (Ospreys v Scarlets home and away).
     
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    Also the majority of the English Premiership league clubs have the backing of very rich individuals such as Nigel Wray at Saracens and billionaire Stephen Lansdowne at Bristol.
     
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    Sarries have lost in excess of £50m - lucky Wray has deep pockets
     
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    He seems to have very deep pockets Taff and clever ways of remunerating players to get around the salary cap!
     
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  18. Taffvalerowdy

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    He had some South African investors at one point - but they found the losses too painful.....
     
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