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Off Topic Death penalty

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Commachio, Feb 21, 2019.

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bring back the death penalty

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  1. DMD

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    I don't know how it's panned out since, but I watched a programme a few years back about a young offenders scheme in I think Turkey.

    Anyone abusing it was sent straight back to the Midnight Express type places, but the rehab place let prisoners out through the day to help the elderly. The programme clearly had a bias, but they argued it let the offenders see the type of people they were impacting on, and also gave the elderly to see that the kids weren't the demons they imagined.

    Slightly skewed due to sending failures back to the **** hole, but the reoffending rate for those that stuck the course was claimed to be virtually zero.
     
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  2. NSIS

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    It was, of course, a facetious comment, but it is tempting.
     
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  3. Quesadaad

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    Brother in law was locked up for four years around ten years ago.
    Came out, got a good job, got married last year and is currently expecting his first child. Probably in the minority, but he has really turned his life around.
     
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    Really? ... tell that to the mother of Keith Bennet who went to her own grave still searching for her little boy's after Brady and Hindley grew bored with their games... tell it to the families of the 30 beautiful young women after Theodore Bundy not only raped and killed their daughters but had a habit of going back to the bodies after for a bit more fun ...

    My sympathies will always be with the victims and their families ... not the ****ing monsters ...
     
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  5. Commachio

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    nsis mask has just slipped, now you just need to catchout the rest of the tweebs.
     
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  6. FosseFilberto

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    :emoticon-0113-sleep
     
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  7. Tel (they/them)

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    Now you’re getting it mate. Well done.
     
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  8. Commachio

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    Nope, the seed is planted.
     
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  9. FosseFilberto

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    ... and fair play to him mate ... <cheers>
     
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  10. Tel (they/them)

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    Tbf most people would make exceptions for Big Brother contestants.
     
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  11. FosseFilberto

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    Fair points ... <ok>
     
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  12. Star of David Bardsley

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    Getting emotional doesn’t make you right............. Fosse.
     
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  13. NSIS

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    The main problem is blindingly obvious. Somebody goes to prison for the first time and who do they get to spend all their time with? Criminals, of course. And that’s where the real problems begin.

    If you’ve come out of the nick, you need something to give you reason not to reoffend. Some will be affected and genuinely remorseful for what they’ve done and their victim(s). Others won’t. But if they come out with nothing and nowhere to go, what are they gonna do?

    Libby’s mate would seem to be the way to go for suitable candidates.
     
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    No of course not ... but I knew the difference between right and wrong and good and evil much earlier than that ... and I'm sure you did too <ok>
     
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  15. DMD

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    For some, prison has become a right of passage/badge of honour and isn't a deterrent for a class of people. Once in that system, they place themselves outside the normal employment market, which they use as an excuse to carry on in crime.

    Offers of rehabilitation should be made, but focused on those most likely to benefit.

    The other factor is that some feel prison is the best place to get help. Plus there's a good percentage of mental health patients locked up.
     
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    I’m just thinking about including Z list ‘slebs’ From ‘I’m a celebrity, ****ing desperate to be on TV’ in that too.
     
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  17. FosseFilberto

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    No emotion involved ... in fact a complete lack of it ... not all crimes deserve understanding, acceptance or forgiveness ...
     
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  18. Tel (they/them)

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    And the Liverpool squad.

    And @luvgonzo.
     
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    Then I don’t know why you’re going off on stupid tangents like a menopausal woman on Facebook.
     
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  20. NSIS

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    Yes, agreed. And that circle is what needs breaking. Everybody needs hope, with none or next to none, you get to the point where you don’t give a ****.
     
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