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Off Topic Death penalty

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Commachio, Feb 21, 2019.

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bring back the death penalty

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  1. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    can we chuck Mogg & BJ in there too?
     
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  2. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Definitely not.
     
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  3. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    why not? they both talk utter **** that stupid people listen to. I thought that was the marker.
     
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  4. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Let’s stick to facts mate, opinions are important but we are talking about life and death here, so perhaps state your opinion on a thread that’s likely to cause less damage.
     
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  5. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    well, I'd throw the whole lot in, but I'm sure there must be 1 or 2 MP's in parliament for their constituents.
     
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  6. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    We can arrange that. It’s a much more sensible suggestion.
     
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  7. The Ginger Marks

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    There's an absence of rancid Spuds today, have they all been murdered?
     
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  8. haslam

    haslam Well-Known Member

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    Can't be bothered to read the 11 pages but I'll just add that Capital punishment doesn't work. If you want to reduce crime you have to tackle the reasons why crime exist and if you want to stop someone being a criminal you need to give them the option to not be a criminal. Simple.

    Compare us with Holland, they're closing prisons (and renting them out to other countries) as their crime rates are falling across the board.

    If people want Capital punishment so they can feel better about themselves and throw righteous fists in the air about a "beast" getting what they deserve then fine but don't kid yourself it will stop anyone else doing a bad thing in future. It simply doesn't.
     
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  9. Stan

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    Wrong. The death penalty and the right to protect yourself by owning arms is what deters people from committing crimes.

    Just look at the US of A.
     
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  10. haslam

    haslam Well-Known Member

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    haha, very good.
     
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  11. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ...
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    As I said at the outset ... provided there was 100% certainty of the offence and the offence was heinous ... terrorism where innocent civilians are killed, rape and killing of children, serial killers ... I'd have no problem. I'd also accept life imprisonment with no prospect of release.

    Either way removes such **** stains from society for good. Don't need it to be a deterrent to others. <ok>

    Their victims and their victim's families don't have the option of 'rehabilitation' ... just a future cut short and a lifetime of dealing with grief ...
     
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  12. Rorschach

    Rorschach Well-Known Member

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    There is State Sponsored Killing...


    It's called Universal Credit. This has wiped out countless people. Brought to the country by the caring Tory party...
     
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  13. Rorschach

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    Sorry that should be State Sanctioned not Sponsored
     
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  14. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    Well said, deterrents simply don't work. A bad **** will always be a bad **** and think they are too clever to get caught, get them off the streets and keep them off.
     
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    I think that's a bit simplistic.

    For example a psychopathic serial killer is a psychopathic serial killer.

    You won't stop him committing crime by giving him a job with Sharon in accounts.

    Some people will always be involved in crime and you won't stop them.
     
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  16. Saintmagic

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    Some people, yes. But I'd wager that a lot of criminals are because of how/where they grew up. The pyschopath's who kill are a tiny % of criminals.
     
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  17. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    and i'd wager that a lot are criminals, not because of having a poor upbringing.
     
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    A bit of nature v nurture surely.
     
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  19. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    Think we find that criminals come from all walks of life.
     
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    So if deterrents don’t work, then the death penalty is merely retribution by your own logic.

    You don’t need to have State sponsored murder to keep people who are a proven danger to society off the streets. You’ve also unilaterally decided that people are incapable of being rehabilitated under any circumstance.
     
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