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  1. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    i know that, just never understand how it's allowed.

    they can preach in footballing terms conflict of interest etc, but when it comes to the most important thing in our country, it seems to be money and power that sways decisions!! so ****ing wrong!!
     
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  2. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    no but you don't have the be a right winger to be a brexiteer.

    They've been quite deliberate on this timing. Its been advertised for a few weeks in the rags especially the worst one of all that the labour party was to split.

    the same rag is all over brexit stoking no deal.. the scum.

    IMo these 7 are therefore in bed somewhere with that.
     
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    The website run by former Labour MPs who have resigned from the party has completely broken just moments after it was announced.

    The politicians, calling themselves The Independent Group, established a new website as part of a plan to split from the Labour Party that was announced at a press conference this morning. The website was referenced on a podium that the MPs stood in front of as they made the announcement.

    But while the launch was still happening, the website stopped working. Instead of showing the planned messages about politics being broken, the website was simply entirely broken.

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    Some users reported seeing messages referencing 503 errors, which suggest the website's servers have broken. Others saw blank screens or long lines of code.

    The interest in the website is presumably the cause of the outage, though it is not clear why exactly it has broken.
     
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  4. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    doing some good for a change <laugh>
     
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  5. Solid Air 2

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    considering a number of them are most angry about Corbyns refusal to back a second referendum i aint buying that.
     
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  6. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    They need to talk to the gaurdian not the rag then
     
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  7. Solid Air 2

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    didn't even know they had and it didn't show in my search just the press conference attended by all the papers.
     
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  8. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    Why are they splitting?

    Splitting to the left, to the centre, or over a specific issue?
     
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  9. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    they all want to be torrie mp's, as they can see we have an idiot in charge of labour, who wont put the party first, just his self interests!! bit like the torries!
     
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    doubt they want to join the Tories imo more likely a bunch of Tories join them in a "centrist" party.
     
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    There are a few given reasons
    anti semitism in the party mainly due to the "hatred" of Israel in the far left who are now the dominant force in the party.
    The (leftist) policies being put forward by the leadership .
    Total lack of leadership on Brexit by Corbyn.
     
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    those facts though or media whichever side you are on spin on things?
     
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  13. Solid Air 2

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    well as i said they are some of the given reasons though in Bergers and possibly others it may be a case of jump before being pushed.
     
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  14. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    definitely in the case of bergers as there was an emergency vote of no confidence called then they retracted!

    all mp's are self serving ****s, and if they can see a party is going down the pan they jump ship and try and make out it's for the good of the people not their own self interests or well being!
     
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  15. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    7 out of nearly 300 is a gross exaggeration of a split

    Its almost assured that if a new GE was called in the morning and labour ran new candidates in each constituency these 7 would lose their seats. thats just how it works.

    for me to call it a split is yet more propaganda thats being going on for a few weeks.

    i find it interesting that the BBC are willing to report it no in the headline but in the tagline under it use the term split.
     
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    That to me sounds a good thing... Although both parties wobble to the left and right and have at times been more centrist. Once Corbyn is gone, labour could take a Tony Blair like shift to the centre again.
     
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  17. jenners04

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    all parties should be centralist.

    so wrong that you can side with companies that take the piss out of hard working people, and make it easier for them.

    politics is all about £££££
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Parties should just be renamed.

    "the wanton capitalist party"

    "the "communist" party" (ie wish to be a dictatorship to rule the peopel who are all equal under your poser

    The "everything goes" liberals

    The "lets give everyone something" solcalists

    The "puritan" party for those who want no abortion, sex outside marriage, and so forth and so on. (split from the capitalists)

    The "sing kumbayah" green party (sandals only, ride a bike or walk party)

    The hard left "workers party" kill all capitalists

    the "special place in hell" uk independance party (unless you are scotish cos then you can't be independant)

    The "sheepshaggers" party for the welsh to talk funny and eye up sheep while getting special funds

    The "sweatys want to take our oil" party. for scots wishing to live in a oil sheikdom


    When you put the thing like this... I don't know what a centrist party actually is but perhaps this is what the monster raving looney party was meant to be?
     
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  19. jenners04

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    how does that make them centralists then?

    they either sway one way or the other ie no middle ground ie centralist.
     
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  20. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    The definition of a normal distribution would be:

    The area under the normal curve is equal to 1.0.Normal distributions are denser in the center and less dense in the tails. Normal distributions are defined by two parameters, the mean (μ) and the standard deviation (σ). 68% of the area of a normal distribution is within one standard deviation of the mean.

    thus 68% of the population should fall within 1 standard deviation form the mean either way.

    Thus if you support the centre then you should always be the majority.

    The issue is you've far right and far left views dressed as centralist parties/ views

    the VAST majority of people would agree that siding with hugely rich companies to further grow their profits at people's expense is wrong but when you can do it and dress it up as part of a centrist view that capitalism in all its forms is good then there you go.

    one only need look at social media companies.

    a) WHY are they allowed to give accounts out to anyone who creates a fake email address? Why? surely you'd stamp out most abuse online overnight by requiring a certified email address linked back to a formal UK or EU Or US or wherever social security account.

    b) why are social media companies allowed to create apps that delete the traces of itself OR better yet every photo you upload becomes thier property?

    then look at gambling companies

    a) Why are these companies allowed to operate in mass media forums like radio linking thier product to charities. (cigarettees are not even allowed any more) They come on shows talk the odds and how good they are then through a few quid on a charity bet on a sport show and get millions of free advertisiing for doing it. They are over every media channel doing it!

    b) why are they allowed give free bets back to losers to keep the hooked?

    c) why are they allows "self regulation" in the face of outcry... see the pathetic effort at football games now.

    then look at the rest of it.

    what I want to know is what are the airbus and nissans and fords of this world doing wrong that they haven't got politicians in thier pockets <laugh>

    the ethical companies are getting royally shafted with brexit.
     
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