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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. Might get 'lost' in the foundations with any luck..... <whistle>
     
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  2. deedub93

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    Churchill died sad and lonely, haunted by his past, he realised what he had done to the Afrikaner Nation once he saw what the Nazis had done in Europe. It is such a shame he didn't have the balls to stand up and apologise.

    Fekking Grease-Bags speech has made me change my mind, I voted to leave but I now want a peoples vote. There is so much wrong with the EU we have to remain in it and fight to change it from within. If we don't the likelihood of a third world war looms closer, which won't worry me, but will affect my children (and potential grand children)

    One looks at the French, the government are fighting against the people, the yellow vests. If it was Russia, the US or China, it would be major news. Because it's France, and them French are always revolting, no body gives a dam. France, Germany and the UK have been bailing out the lesser economies for too long. One crosses the border from France into Spain, and the diesel is 30% cheaper, subsidised by the French/British/German tax payer. This has to stop.

    Returning to my first point, I work with a lot of South Africans, and I always bring up the subject of the British Concentration camps, and apologise on behalf of all decent Brits. If I don't I know eventually they will. Isn't it about time the British government did? If I kick off a Change.Org petition, would people support me?
     
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    Don't use ChangeDotOrg, use an official Parliament petition because if it reaches a certain number of votes it has to be brought up in Commons (although far too often they're hand waved away)

    Just don't through some of the other active petitions at the moment, as most of them make that temper tantrum started by one of the ArsenalFanTV pondlife to have The FA deduct us points look like a credible petition, given so many of them seem to be started by people who considered Britain First to be their Woodstock...
     
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    cheers mate, do you have a link to where I can start it?
     
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    Click the red bit of text
     
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    It's black on my computer but I've found it, cheers
     
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  7. As the Chancellors visit to China is cancelled after the Government can’t decide on whether gun boat diplomacy or submissive ass-licking the better way forward, we are reminded of another piece of May spin that has now come back to haunt her....

    “Prime Minister Theresa May visited China for three days last year in a bid to boost trade and investment. Ahead of the trip, she said her visit would "intensify the golden era in UK-China relations".
    Speaking at the time, she said she expected China to play a "huge role" in the economic development which is why she would be "deepening co-operation with China on key global and economic issues."

    There have been no trade developments with China since that heroic attempt to strengthen Sino-UK relations. Anyone surprised? No, thought not.... <laugh>
     
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    Meanwhile, in the worst nightmares of Chris Grayling...

     
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    Millions died in the Bengal famine during Churchill's finest hour.
    Churchill turned a blind eye.
    India was under British rule at the time, but it didn't register as any form of priority at the time.
    History may remember Churchill as making the right decision not to appease Hitler and to court the support of the U.S to help defeat him, but overall was he a "great" man? No.
     
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    Where does one put prisoners of war?
     
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    In a POW camp:emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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    Which is a concentration camp really,isn't it?

    p.s. Ann Coulter (who?) says the only emergency is the idiot Trump.

    p.p.s. When Trump had his physical.Did he see a trickcyclist too? I think he's lost his mind but his Republicans are too scared to do anything,except Mc Connell who spends his time with his head up Trump's butt!
     
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    Ann Coulter is to Fox News what Victoria Derbyshire is to the BBC
     
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    Concentration camps lock civilans up without charges. Prisoners of war are enemy combatants.

    Ann Coulter's a right-wing fruitcake and author. She's pretty out there even for a Republican.
     
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47278902

    Hardly as seismic as the days of the original SDP, but seems stupid to me.

    On their issues of contention, the "snowflake" acid test for them will be
    on any such issue the govt puts to MP vote, how many times do they vote
    same/against what the Labour whips are demanding of their party.
     
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    The other acid test is just how badly they could get trounced at the next election/by-election

    Here's the majorities that those involved won their seats at the last election by
    Chuka Umunna - 26,285
    Luciana Berger - 29,466
    Chris Leslie - 19,590
    Angela Smith - 1322
    Mike Gapes - 31,647
    Gavin Shuker - 13,925
    Ann Coffey - 14,477

    To put it mildly there's the potential for huge swings against Umunna, Berger, Leslie and Gapes in much the same way that Zac Goldsmith lost over 16,000 votes and his seat overnight when he left the Tories and stood in Richmond Park as an Independent - while Smith may as well put a bow around Peniston and deliver it to Tory HQ on a platter because it's been a marginal seat since its creation, and with her majority that thin splitting the vote will all but guarantee a Tory win

    Funnily enough, the seven of them are saying they won't call a by-election...
     
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    They cannot stand as Labour MPs at the next election.

    If they are in 'brood mare' constituencies, then they will be gone.
    If not, and they are at the very least decent constituency MPs, then
    they stand a chance of re-election. Time will tell (soon enough) .
     
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    Berger's certainly at the most risk of losing her seat given she's never been popular with her constituents, which I'm sure has nothing to do with the long-held feeling that she was parachuted into the seat by Gordon Brown - a belief mainly based on the minor issue that the return address that ballot papers to select their candidate were delivered to just so happened to be the address she was residing at the time...
     
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    Chuka Ummunna speaks an awful lot of sense. It would be a shame and a loss if he were to lose his seat. I don't know too much about the others. He is aware that politics have moved to the extremes, and there is more than a problem with just the Labour Party. All parties have extremists, and so does the nation as a whole. Who would want to be a politician?

    Personally I think this whole Brexit process has been more damaging to the country than Brexit itself will be. Whichever route is taken. However, it has made a few nail their colours to the mast, and most of us can see what a bunch of useless self-centred dickheads we have running the country, on both sides of the divide. No wonder we are in such a state. Guy Fawkes had the right solution.
     
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    What an excellent observation!

    And yes, lack of interest / cynicism about politics has allowed the parties to get hijacked by extremists on all sides.
     
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