exactly Goldie. Tory HQ must be licking their lips at the moment with the Labour party disintegrating. Jezza is 'disappointed'. He will replace them with more loony lefties.
I agree with you about communities being largely self governing, Stainsey. The opposite in fact of sending increasingly large amounts of power to fat cat politicians in Brussels
Socialism doesn't work? I'd hazard a guess that quite a few Scandinavians are more than happy with it - in fact, they are reknowned as the happiest places in the world. What does it take? Politicians to understand that absolute power is nothing to be craved. Those in the "interim modified negligable" power to act in the greater good for all, thinking TCO at all times. People to be OK with paying taxes in the knowledge that you get something real and tangible in return, such as first class health and education systems - free for all. Have a genuine care for each other and wanting to raise the bar for all rather than, What's in it for me? It's opinions like these that make us sheep. Red, Blue, Yellow - we're all sheep. The ****s are on all sides - Capitalists (there are many good people and there are ****s) Socialists (there are many good people and there are ****s) Can the World take on Socialism? - Of course it ****ing cant, because we love our finer things and we are inherently selfish ****s (sheep) What do Americans pay in tax? Average 17% on an average income of 31K USD + Heath insurance of 330 USD per person per month per person in family + Schooling costs for higher education/nursery care - conservative 10K per year on average up to 22 (if lucky enough to go to a low ranking uni) + Minimal holidays They get cheap petrol, and cheap processed **** to eat, sure. Do you think the average American would pay perhaps 13% more on their salary to get just these 3 things? And for your dilitation, my eldest is at Uni here - a fantastic one - and gets ****ing paid for the privilidge, why? Because the country wants to make sure these young people make the most of the wisdom being imparted. If the Americans knew how to work out the TCO, there would really be blood on the streets. That ****ing Socialism heh - ****ing ****!! Signed A Champagne Taxi Count paying 60% on his blagged salary and loving it. TCO = Total Cost of Ownership. I'm only good at one thing and that is it, luckily it is a gift that I can use in absolutely every single walk of life. Goldie, read your post back to yourself, do you honestly believe that Capitalism hasn't got a centralised nucleus?
So Jezza has mobilised by getting the Unions and Labour first to condemn the 'splitters'. And saying how could a true labour voter go against a labour candidate? I also hear that JK Rowling maybe financing them. She will need all magic she can conjure up to get them to win anything. I was told on here recently when discussing the losers vote that "it ain't over yet'? I think after today it's even further away.... maybe Mars is nearer.
Delighted if you can prove me wrong, Danish, but I've never seen the Scandanavian countries as socialist. They are successful countries that follow a capitalist model, mitigated by a well oiled welfare state, free health and education etc and operating labour unions and with good relations between employees and employers. So not so unlike the UK, but with more public sector employees. A happy life style but Scandanavians that want to be world beating entrepreneurs would probably head for the US.
Here's the best thing - The EU will have to modernise after Brexit The antiquated 2 party system in the UK is about to collapse Tory and Labour Counts are gonna get found out Welcome to Coalition Concensus politics - where decisions can be made based on the TCO and well being of the vast majority of people. Extremists everywhere 8both sides) should be clucking - Christmas is coming you turkeys.
The thought is that the Labour is fast becoming a Communist party. McDonell is a self-confessed Marxist. Andrew Murray, one of the Labour leader’s advisers, was until recently a Communist party member. Seumas Milne, communications director, is also close to the Communist party. The difficulty for Corbyn is that the British people tend not to vote in large numbers for extremist parties, either left or right
I not frightened of coalition Danish. I would welcome cross party consensus. It works in your art of the world. But agree, the EU has to modernise. Brexit didn't happen because of UKIP/Cameron, it happened because of the EU. Said all along they cannot adapt and it will be their downfall. We have too many here that are blinded by Brexit and how the EU works. They need to read up on the treatment of Greece and realise what they are about.
So because Socialism works you call it a Capitalist model - interesting. Have just shouted out in the office what they think the country is - (they think I'm mad by the way) - everyone thought that the country was 50/50. When questioned it was because they equated socialism with a party called Endhislisten (a 7% vote at last election and a version of Momentum). I asked them what they thought the UK was and all answered Capitalist - without a doubt. Danish entrepeneurs are aplenty - they all get a decent education and many do try their luck abroad, succesfully. And then all run back for the social welfare and well being as soon as they get children. I like your view of Capitalism, seems very centrist. Free health, free top quality education, labour unions with good relations between employees and employers. A happy life style - sounds really good.
I'm waiting to hear from the Labour voters on here and what they think? You watch the Tories stick together now.
The risk for the Tories is the current moves by grassroots to deselect disgruntled Remainers like Soubry and Grieve. It may leave those MP's with nowhere to go but out to a Centrist Party. The Tory party would then have to wait for the next bye election to win back the seat.
Do you think Soubry and Grieve would get re-elected as independents? I think they will be gone at next election. I don't think the Tory voters will forgive them.
Agree, and at some stage, they will start to realise that. I've noticed Nicky Morgan has seen which way the wind is blowing recently, and has come on board the Leave policy
If that happens we'd need to pay the Argies to invade Las Malvinas again. Perhaps we can get a few Marbella "expats" to go Hell for leather in Gibraltar creating the need to cease relations with the Dagos? Extremists from both side are exactly the same - they end up meeting up with each other. Change is a coming - not just for the EU - it was honestly what I wished for in my wildest dreams. It wont happen of course, they'll be some few decentralised bastards that need the staus quo to continue in order to fill their trough.
Great post, I’m the same as you mate, talk a good story but........ Point of clarification though. I don’t think this has anything to do with ‘morals’, which are just shifting social norms. It’s about personal integrity, and what’s left of the social contract. Time for breakfast and a wander in to head office of the multinational evil drug peddlers.....glasshouses etc
I read a depressing article today saying that May is being sneeky and will put us into a CU and that Hammond has been telling big business not to worry as they will get a CU.
