What did that have to do with my post? They make £BN’s in profit out of supplying medicines, that often they didn’t even either fully create nor fully pay for the development of.
Actually I disagree... weirdly if left to capitalism in a capitalist system it WOULD just sort itself out ... yes the ****ers that are rich would still make sure they are rich and stick an excuse in for a price rise but they would still follow the buyer. What will actually **** it up is politicised civil servants and actual politicians.... which is what always made me laugh about true right wing politicians... their authoritarianism always interferes with their capitalism ....
And I focused on right wing there because the left wing ****ers are doing what they usually do in turmoil ... hoping "this is the end!" Finally we will have our revolution when it all goes to ****... 1) it never happens that way in stable countries 2) when they forced it to happen to a country their "solution" failed just as miserably if not worse because they slaughter people to hide the fact they arebt any different.... it's still haves and have nots . We need a robot overlord..
It’s added processing at ports combined with lack of resource to deal with it, that’ll cause chaos. Combined with the U.K. falling out of hundreds of regulatory agreements on the same day, which will all require resolution in a state of crisis. This isn’t politics nor civil servants being jobsworths, it’s just the reality of what no deal actually entails. The level of understanding on this subject is still ****ing woeful.
Mweh as I said before on this thread...the systems, multiple variations are already developed CRM...production, transport...etc because private businesses that provide those want to get ahead of each other to implement them...and obviously sell them... because they know it takes at least a year to bug free it. So... if it literally was just a free market that the Tory nutjobs proclaim ...what you state as issues won't be a catastrophic problem ... To say it wouldn't be slowed down by civil (senior) servants or bitter on both sides jobsworths (again senior ) is daft .... that's literally what slows down any change in governmental policies implementation. . Who do you think actually does the practical application of any state or international policy? In the western world it's.... private enterprise and civil servants.... usually to circumvent whatever implausible ****e govts have declared... So sorry... I still disagree... Although Italy proves and disproves your position over the period of the EU depending on when you dip in....
Business (including mine) are now spending vast amounts of money activating contingency plans for a no deal Brexit, that might prove to be completely futile. Increasing stock levels which eats into capital or requires additional funding, plus storage costs. Meanwhile investment grinds to a halt due to the continued uncertainty and companies that have the option are moving head quarters and certain operations, cash and assets to within the EU to mitigate risk and potential cost. This Govt simply hasn’t got its ducks in a row to cope with a no deal outcome, as it’s been dicking around for over 2 years trying to give the impression that it was prepared to take the no deal outcome, when the reality was, it had no intention. Now the clock is running down its desperately trying to play catch up, in case we allow ourselves to fall into this completely avoidable act of national self harm, due solely to political reasons.
yep, all the dooms dayers saying no more pcs etc blah blah. i worked in a bank at the time of that happening, and was pissing myself at the fuss over it.
I agree with all that mate. I'm (horror ) in the private sector now after 18 years of public...all finance .. But my point was ... you're business if left alone will adapt to whatever circumstance afterwards ... or as some businesses you'll go to the wall because you couldn't... but... my point was .... it WILL be the jobsworths in public sector (senior) that make that more likely ... their default position is 19th century.... pause... converse .... meetings.... defer decision.... 2 years later ....nowhere So yes... all govts should realise that when making a policy decision... Both you and I agree absolutely that this whole situation is a towering pile of buffoonery by guys playing the markets and moving their fortunes in advance.... much like those during the financial crisis... But.... under a capitalist system it's Darwinist...always has been... Sorry.... in a ****ing fatalist mood about this **** now mate....
Yeah we’ll adapt. Tariffs will make our goods less competitive and our volume is bound to decrease as a direct result. Margins will no doubt be affected and thus the combination of the two will result in a drop in profitability if the cost base remains the same........so what’ll happen? We’ll have to reduce the cost base, and that’ll mean cost downs across the job, including head count, so we’ll make people redundant. It’ll happen across the spectrum.
But but.... it's ok...2 years after a Tory govt will reduce the minimum wage, negate all all employee protections so you can employ the same people back at half the cost.. . No wait...China and India will have gobbled all that up...because the guys that said we'll deal with the rest of the world insult them continuously... But again .... more importantly Walls...and Truancy. ..
I’ve asked numerous Brexiters to name the tangible benefits of this debacle, they invariably try to push the Sovereignty line, then I delve into that, and it soon becomes apparent that they can’t name one tangible example of how our or their ‘Sovereignty’ has affected our lives. It’s so frustrating, people have been conned by far right Tories who want a deregulated, low tax economy that suits them and destroys our manufacturing and farming industries in the process. So many of those who swallowed the con, are those who are going to suffer the direct consequences of it.
It's xenophobia mate... I saw the same type of Q&A done by a blogger who asked the questions... then pointed to each EU law that actually gave the brexiteers the thing they wanted. Bar one. ... Brexit is our Mexican wall. It makes no sense, costs a fortune, won't provide anything that the ****ers say it will..... including migration...because rich people will always want cheap labour. It's just cyclical... but only thing I diverge from you is it's not just right wing... every idea thrown up again by the righters in power is being thrown up by the extreme left and has always been before... (Saint will argue there's no such thing as extreme left ...which in theory is correct...like in theory religions are peaceful things... but ideas are like faries... every practical full on left state (not centrist right or left) that has existed has employed every single nightmare a right wing equivalent has.... But unfortunately we are in a reaction to centrist govt over 20 years across Europe. It's like we humans get bored ....and need the **** to hit the fan... maybe evolutionary process is indeed still within us despite our efforts...
The difference between the deluded far left who think Brexit might be an enabler for their nationalised socialist utopia, is that their delusion is driven by pure ideology. Those on the far right virtually all have personal gain as their driver, the ideology is merely the mechanism. I try to avoid the obvious xenophobia and blatant racism that we all know was a major factor, as that seems to be off bounds. However, I’ve had plenty who when their Sovereignty nonsense has been taken to pieces, then resort to immigration, which I suspect was always their prime driver, they’ve just rewritten their own history in order to avoid the stereotype.
i think at some point a large oh **** realisation is coming and those self.same people just saying they are sick of it and just go do it now and no deal just to end it will be the first blaming others for the ****.
I can genuinely see if our successive govts had collaborated for 20 years knowing that for another 20 to 50 years we say....did a green evolution ... that business, culture, society we were going to side step the oil driven economics to become as self sufficient as possible while being world leaders in technologies that we could sell to make up for the things we can't provide ourselves... That would actually have put us in a position that said we want to deal with greater Asia, the African continent, South America. . But we virtue signalled while ignoring our scientists research and developments and still sucking the fossil fuel dick of all the unpleasant countries....justifying it with empire rhetoric... This is the current problem... a reaction to globalism ... which in my opinion is the only thing that in the long term saves our species... we are a global species now... we can destroy the entire planet... instantly or over time... my only concern with it is it lends to authoritarianism to have a global govt. ... but... localised will not solve the probs we now have ... As I said.... robot overlord
Like the Trump supporters that fell for the tax cut but now received a IRS bill for 5k.... lol ... it was a paperwork shift exercise...not an actual tax cut ...
Indeed, they’ll never look in the mirror. We’re already seeing it, the failure to get a Unicorn deal is due to ‘remoaners’, the EU, Labour etc etc. When fresh food is in short supply and medicines are sat in traffic jams in Kent, they’ll blame the French for ‘blockading’ us, and the EU for being nasty and teaching us a lesson. Facts will be ignored and the delusion will continue. Until.......people start losing their jobs, homes get repo’d, manufacturers start to relocate, then maybe the penny will drop, and they’ll blame the Tories.
