1% of the UK are vegan. So that's the remaining 99% of us eating animal flesh and wearing animal skins.
Not really. We treat animals as our property. Ours to eat. Ours to turn into clothing. Ours to put to work until they outlive their usefulness. Ours to use for sport. Ours to kill to preserve ourselves and property (including other animals that we're going to eat). If your house was 'infested by vermin' like rats, mice, wasps, etc.what would you do? I can't see that klling foxes that are damaging property as anything but totally in line with the way that we treat animals every day to suit our society. Picking on this incident as out of the ordinary is just hypocrisy.
Trapping and then shooting foxes in cities is common practice...they can not be released into the countryside as they fear the spread of diseases to the rural fox populations and they can't simply release them in another part of the city. I know of schools that have to get this done as they have had a family of foxes making the school grounds their domain and defending parts of it as their own.
I've no problem with anyone's personal choice of diet or lifestyle. Vive la difference! If one is to give up eating meat because of the exploitation of animals, then a vegan lifestyle seems the logical choice and not extreme to me, but each to their own...
I agree but I am talking about the extreme of the diet, which can be difficult when out and about. I don't eat meat but that's a choice I am lucky enough to be able to make. I have little problem with the hunting of animals and eating meat, but I do have strong feelings about factory farming which I find disgusting and also damaging to everyone. If I was an animal I'd rather be a fox with a chance of a free and natural life than say a pig with no chance and sometimes never seeing the light of day. Animals exploit other animals that's what they do, including us, but humans have taken the exploitation to extremes with their high volume methods. How people that eat the product of this exploitation and then go gooey eyed about cuddly animals or horses and so on. That's hypocrisy!
I'm a meat eater and lucky enough to be able to buy eggs/meat/etc. that has been treated better than some of the alternative, cheaper options. As a meat eater, I think it is my responsibility to treat that meat with respect. I'm with the rest of the world (not namby pamby modern Britain), in that I'll eat any edible part of the animal - including the blood (love haggis!) and boil the bones for stock. I recall when butchers shops used to have pigs heads and rabbits hanging in them. I think that was a good thing. You knew what meat was. It didn't come frozen and covered in breadcrumbs. We're too divorced from farming and it's allowed terrible processes to become common place.
1. Vegan diets are not natural, vegetarian diets are. 2. It is debatable whether with current tech, the "let the numbers decide" argument for a vegan diet being universally adopted has been proven. 3. The mods should move this debate onto the "Bill Nicholson arms" article.
I agree with all of that Brian. I was always a very fussy meat eater couldn't stand fat or gristle. I was put off a lot by the Gestapo that used to force me to eat school dinners until I was heaving, when I was a small boy. They managed to make sure I would never touch a steak & kidney pie ever again in my life. At home my favourite was liver which I used to call chocolate and kidneys,(despite the pissy smell) I haven't eaten meat now for 30 years, apart from the very occasional bacon roll, probably had about 6 in those 30 years. I never find it as good as the smell.
Good last point. Can't see the correlation between meat eating/vegetarian and new stadium plans unless they're having a veggie restaurant.
I can move the entire thread but I am not sure how to move a few posts to another thread tbh. Maybe @PleaseNotPoll or @No Kane No Gain can do this. If not you will have to put up with it as it is
But if you look back it was about what to do with a fox found in the stadium. I don't want to eat it personally, but feel free.
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