didn't say i was a hooligan dear.i said i condoned it.i see i've got another stalker :x you will never eradicate fighting at football.
I read the article in the Mail and thought that it could quite easily have been written about me. I've never been banned, but 30 years ago I missed the odd away game in the back of a police fan and I did spend Saturday afternoons outside the Cod taunting the away fans and running up and down Anlaby Road, it's just the way it was back then. I was never really a hooligan, but if you check my posting history far enough back, you could probably find me mentioning some daft event in my miss-spent youth. Cardiff fans are some of the worst and I've no idea if this bloke was an idiot or just someone who did what I did many years ago, but either way, if anyone wants to take a pop at him, it's probably best to leave it until rather longer after his death than this. Whatever his track record, no-one should lose their Dad at a football match. RIP.
Doveston, have you ever been caught up in football violence? In mythirteen years of following city I have been caught up in it three times. Each time I was with my lad. The first time he was eight. If you can condone their behaviour in that situation, I suggest you seek help.
Most of us have been carried away at times in the heat of the moment in our younger days. I know I have but I never actually gone looking for agro ( proper 70 / 80 's term ). This bloke was done for causing trouble last year , he'd have been in his 40's and was , allegedly , one of the Soul Crews top players . Bit if a difference if you ask me.
What a ridiculous comment. Violence has been largely curbed out of the game since the 80s and only a minority of fans still associate themselves with football violence. I've been going to football for 12 years and have never felt threatened at all and have only seen a couple of incidents (Millwall in the cup, Huddersfield in 2004). Even if it was part of football, the very fact you condone violence probably says a lot about the kind of person you are.
Sadly there's no denying that fighting will happen at football, but thankfully it's on a very small scale and most people have enough sense not to get involved and go to football to enjoy the day out. Whether it happens or not, i don't see how you can even begin to condone any form of violence. I've seen fighting before on nights out in town, and i'll probably see more incidents, but it doesn't mean i condone what's happening. I treat it with complete disgust.
James although the mods deleted your post(s) so I never saw them, from the reaction of the other posters it looked like you said more than that. You may not have any sympathy for the guy who was killed and may believe that he was a hooligan, but his death has left his wife without a husband, and his kids without a father. The thread was effectively a book of condolences for people to pay their respects. To post what you did was unnecessary, ill-timed and insensitive. If you didn't have sympathy there was no need for you to post anything at all in my opinion.
It's a forum pal , it's about opinions . What are you on about anyway when you say ' so he might not have been'. Might not have been what ?
Why do you need an opinion on the death of a man? Clearly I mean he might not have been the hooligan that the papers are making out.
James, You know exactly why your posts were deleted and the thread you started on the Cardiff board was deleted. All you've done is been gullible enough to believe a story from The Sun (which in itself says so much about you) who, in turn, have leeched their crap from a less than reliable forum. You know nothing yet, armed with this information, decided to come a **** all over the memory of someone's mate, someone's colleague and someone's father on a thread created to the memory of who he WAS, not what the f'kin Sun tells you he was. What we do know is a football fan died at a football match...Nationality or team supported is irrelevant...its something we should all be able to relate to yet you decided it was funny and that he "deserved to die". The really sad thing is that due to your repeated posting... I know you probably won't care and your "I didn't say much" comment above just shows you for what you are. You would not qualify to wipe the dog **** from the sole of Mikey's shoe. My apologies to the decent Tigers on this forum.
Why do you need to have an opinion on the fact I have an opinion of the death of a bloke ? We could go on all night . At the end of the day I didn't go on the Cardiff board and sound off and I didn't mean to cause any offence . Saying that I wasn't born yesterday either .
Regardless of whether a fan is hooligan or a genuine fan, he is still someones family and its very sad and not an excuse to wind up anyone
I've been in conversation with the Cardiff mods, who have explained their actions and I've passed on the condolences of all decent City fans. I don't really care of he was naughty or not, nobody should ever die at a football match.
