That Dominic Grieve is coming across as a nasty spiteful muppet. He was just on Sky agreeing that he wants to stop Brexit and is planning to get the house to take over from May on Brexit?
Doesn't necessarily mean we trade less with them in that time. Since we buy more from the EU than we sell, it's in both sides interests to rely on interim measures.
It's okay needing someone with a bit more knowledge but if you don't understand between leave/remain then what's the point?
No, one deal negotiated with Brussels but it will have to be ratified by our parliament and each of the 27 countries
No point Goldie he is a wum. he will make it sound like he is interested, then comes out with crap. You only need to discuss something like Plasterboard with him as that is easier to understand.
Oh I'm interested alright. Just you dont make much sense so I try engage with people who know what they are on about.
Goldie did you watch This week last night? I thought it was funny watching Portillo take apart that female Labour MP wanting a Citizens' Assembly?
Backstop. Forgive me if I have misunderstood it. The only purpose is to ensure the status quo until a trade deal has been negotiated. Apparently we in the UK all want one. And all in the EU need one. So what precisely is the problem? We were promised that it would be easy. 10 years or 5 years. Why do we need anything beyond the implementation period? I noted that on QT last night JRM last night waved his copy of the Withdrawal Agreement telling us all that the backstop was not the only problem but chose not to tell us what else was wrong with it. This is important because we should be told if there are other reasons why the UK should not be agreeing a trade deal with the EU asap
bob TBH, I actually find you the least interesting poster on this thread. As I said previously, you add nothing., other than the price of plasterboard. You have one aim which is to spread you Anti-Tory/EU rhetoric. Remember you were the person who didn't vote because "you didn't understand" Sorry was leave and remain that challenging? You then make out that you are some sort of expert and make snide digs. You and the 'Euro one' belong together.
That's Stella Creasy who's a lightweight. No, I haven't watched it yet, but will probably do so this evening. The problem is there are almost as many views on how Brexit should (or should not) roll out, as there are MP's. This is why the pending Letwin/ Cooper amendment trying to create a constitutional earthquake by having Parliament take over ruling the country on this issue from a democratically elected government and making it law that there can be no deal, is senseless. No deal is the legal backstop. Any lengthy delay will cause turmoil in the country and in business due to uncertainty.
It's amazing that so far it has been far easier to get 27 sovereign states to agree than the one which thought it would all be simplicity itself. The problem of ratification lies here not the corridors of power in Europe.
The EU can offer a no deal transition with agreed tariffs, pretty much as now. Remember, we are an important customer of many major EU member countries We could get on with negotiating trade deals with other countries worldwide. Free movement of people from the EU would end, in favour of selective immigration
It's not really amazing. The EU is demanding $39 billion plus an Irish backstop in perpetuity plus customs arrangement that would allow the EU to carry on selling their goods to the UK. What's not to like? If you look behind the EU and member countries, they are all fighting like rats in a sack on other issues
To be fair to JRM he has said on many occasions that there are many things he doesn't agree with in that document. He has said many times (even yesterday on the BBC) what the other problems were. May won't get her deal through. No deal is the default but house doesn't want it. Extending is kicking can down the road. CU and SM won't get accepted as it's not what the people voted for and was re-confirmed in both manifesto's that we would leave. No appetite for a 'losers vote" Which leaves Malthouse/free trade deal and using an independent arbitrator to oversee (article 24 Gatt). That way it sorts out backstop and keeps everything going.
Thats fair enough ellers. You dont really bring much to the party anyway if truth be told. I do find you quite amusing when you spout your soundbites with little to no substance behind them but its each to their own. You certainly dont require my help in tying you up in misunderstandings. You voted leave, not for a deal or renegotiation of an already agreed deal. You keep your chin up lad and box on
