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  1. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    yeah... it's a great airplane or whatever but it's massive.

    it's another Concorde now. can land at a few main hubs but just doesn't offer something different in terms of price to consumer.
     
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    jaffaSlot Well-Known Member

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    Yeah there is some scope for that big plane, but realistically it was never going to work. They are better focusing on smaller, lighter and more efficient planes that are cheaper to run, fly further and more comfortable etc.

    Related news the other week is that airbus said they will be leaving the uk and moving all development to europe
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    there report on BBC says 12000 jobs in UK and air bus are looking at 3 or 4000 losses globally I assume.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    that's a whole other level of jobs then
     
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    jaffaSlot Well-Known Member

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    Our biggest 'export' are our professional services, as in the people providing a service, be in financial or a design firm.

    We are experts, literally best of the best in some fields and located within the biggest single market which makes us ideal, but its cheap for a company to relocate an office building or head quarters. People were deluded thinking all these companies weren't going to fu<k off with brexit.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    my.view there is they may shift hq but it's hard to shift the workers.

    it'll mean a huge hole.might emerge in tax as the place were workers are becomes a cost centre and the transactions happen in the eu
    so the tax on profit vanishes
     
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  9. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    are you saying indian call centres? look how that has gone down, not very well!

    some companies even now use it as a marketing tool, uk call centres!!!
     
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    I agree. I have a family mmeber who works for HSBC and they have divided their business and moved part of it from London to Birmingham. Apparently a lot of people didn't even want to make that move (don't blame them), but they are going through an aggressive hiring period instead. They are coming into issues with the lack of European people wanting to move to the UK currently, which is the go to market when hiring.

    I've had similar issues in my office, not enough engineers in this country and always hiring Europeans, but that has literally dried up over night and our team has shrunk and turned down work and some other offices are starting to struggle (redundancies to come).
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    no it's bigger quality stuff.

    call centres sure that's a service thing etc etc but its not the only service.
     
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  12. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    its not just businesses that are normally based abroad effected.

    the recent leak of what is happening at tescos is one, heard it was supposed to be 15k job losses but because of the leaks they have had to tweak and its now 9k.

    different argument though i believe as its down to profits ie keep the ****ing shareholders happy!!!
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    my view is nobody sets up these days to supply the German or French or UK markets. none are.big enough. they set up to serve emea as a whole and hire all languages etc in one place.

    it's a huge issue if you can't get language speakers.

    if places start putting in offices in eu then the natural trend is stuff flows to where it can be reliably served.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    My view is look at end to end picture.

    Look at the supply chain overall. There's very few products that is an entirely intra uk supply chain.

    EG. Innocent smoothies. Produced in south of england but much of the raw materials are imported daily from EU. Company is now struggling to figure if it can continue to process in UK as its not sure it can get fruit in

    ON the other hand I heard Ireland is likely to run out of bread as while it exports meat it seems to import grain and wheat and flour so the bakeries there could run out as they buy it form us.

    Thats hurt to our exporters

    and the list goes on and on and on and on.
     
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    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    **** all to do with brexit ffs.

    If that was the case how come it kept being raised every year before we wanted out?

    Exactly. Government cut backs to local authorities and local councils getting greedy using it as an excuse when they have cut back everything already!! and not ****ing one of them can ****ing ****ing ****ing justify it!!

    ****ers the lot of them
     
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  17. LuisDiazgamechanger

    LuisDiazgamechanger Dribbles

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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    exactly.

    convenient timing to announce imo.
     
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  19. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    The issue with drugs is the relevant competent authority may not be agreed or recognised afterwards.

    However most of these are imported not exported so its a regulatory issue. It would be my assumption that once market authorisation is sorted for an existing drug there REALLY should be no issue.

    Again this marketing authorisation is granted by the EU commission not by the UK. (most drugs are eu wide authorisation based on review by one body and approved by EU overall. Thats how it works)

    If the UK can ensure these are certified day one fair enough.

    Again these are issues for an orderly withdrawal... the dis engagement from 40 years of convergence and efficiencies.

    THe UK simply doesn't have the staff employed today IMO to take on this role today. And wont for a number of years.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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