Off Topic Political Debate

The UK has been the envy of the rest of the EU for many years because it is the preferred choice of outside investors. Despite a reduction due to uncertainty over Brexit the UK will remain the place to invest in. The UK firmly remains the number one destination for foreign investment in Europe.

 

As the UK will no longer be the gateway into Europe for many companies, something that attracted their investment in the first place, why should they continue to invest? You say that it is a temporary, but many countries within the EU are now reporting that they are seeing record investment, while the UK is reporting the opposite. What do you put that down to?

 

Some European countries may have seen some improvement from a very low base. Once the Brexit uncertainty is over the UK will remain the number one choice. The worsening political uncertainty in many EU countries will deter many investors. As many leading industrialists have already alluded to "why would anybody invest in basket case France?".

 

You are overlooking what a former PM told you. As she attracted large investment into the UK it was because of the membership to the customs unions and single markets of Europe. We have seen that without that to offer, companies are choosing to invest where they are certain they will still have the benefit of that huge market. With the High Court granting permission to companies to take billions of pounds out of the country, this is going the wrong way.

 

Let's hope it is.
Let's also hope that HS2 gets the bullet too.

 

The UK is seen as an attractive business friendly nation, completely different to somewhere like France that is seen as a nation to avoid. After Brexit you will see a surge in investment in the UK, the reasons why it is deemed to be so attractive will still be there. Unfortunately for other EU countries the major problems already identified by international investors will also remain.

 

The serious fissure in the Labour Party has split wide open, the moderate MPs are sick of the anti semite Marxist leadership. This has been coming for a long time. Maybe they can borrow the minibus used by the LibDems and Greens.

 

I thought it was predictable that you would not waste such an opportunity to come on here with your goading, smirking and use of your sniggering little face. Unfortunately you betray your ignorance more and more with every post. How can a person be simultaneously a Marxist and an anti semite when Karl Marx was, himself, Jewish ? The fact that they are dragging up this anti semite thing again is sickening - as if all criticism of Israel should be forever silenced through fear of sounding anti semitic. You know as well as I do that the real reason for this split is Corbyn's mule headed stance over Brexit, and his refusal to listen to the grass roots on this matter. But, there is a light at the end of the tunnel because this is a walking invitation for Tories to also join this independent group - most of the decent remainers such as Anna Soubry will be tempted by this now.

 

How rude, you need to learn some manners. You have dropped below acceptable standards.
This is a political thread on our forum discussing a topical subject.

The split in the Labour Party has been long awaited and was predicted soon after most MP's told Corbyn he was not up to the job. I'm sure most Tories would like to ditch some of the wreckers, such as Soubry, Grieve etc. I think their local constituencies will chuck them out at the first opportunity. The Tory party tends to unite when faced with any serious opposition.

It is those MPs that have just abandoned the Labour Party that are calling the current LP leadership both Marxists and anti semites. The anti semite problem is not being dragged up, it never went away. The further split in the LP regarding Brexit has often been downplayed on here, we can now see why Corbyn continues to dither. It is reported that there are many more Labour MPs looking to ditch the LP. There will only be Momentum activists left fairly soon.

 

Of course, being part of the clique it is perfectly acceptable for you to insult any Tories or Breiteers, silly me.

 

You have still not explained how somebody can be both a Marxist and an Anti Semite at the same time. Again, the ignorance is being reinforced. With regard to your last sentence - it is precisely the momentum activists who are most pissed off with Corbyn because of his reluctance to actually stick with what was decided at their last conference ie. to back a second referendum. Now that this independent group is there, they could well be a magnet for centrist, remainer, Tory MPs.

 

When you learn to actually debate rather than behaving like a child (as in this post) then maybe you will get some respect back - just try it once as a sort of experiment.

 

You should apologise for your loutish behaviour

 

You should ask those Labour MPs who have ditched the Labour Party why they have accused the Labour leadership of being Marxist and anti semite. I have already said some of the Tory wreckers previously outlined should join this private company, they will be able to use a much larger minibus for their annual conference.

 

I have better things to do for now than wasting time with the likes of you - all you are doing is trying to provoke a reaction, which is not going to come. If your life is so empty that you get a kick out of permanent winding up on here then I am very sorry for you but I am not a social worker.

 

So what happens in their constitutional area ?

Is there a by-election with a new Labour candidate ...

 

No, there is no requirement on them to resign. They all said they would continue to represent the people, so I doubt that they will.

 

The way you have treated me.. Pure hypocrisy.. Try treating others with the respect you would like to receive.

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As far as I know there is no automatic recall system Mark. If an MP actually crosses the House to another party then they cannot be forced to give up their seat in the process. Often they do, but they are not required to - this often happens on Town Councils, and, I'm afraid, nothing can be done about it. The problem is that they were elected on a Labour ticket, and the party paid their election expenses, so the moral position is clear, but the legal position isn't.

 

I presume they were in safe Labour seats ..?

Sometime voters might go by party loyalty but maybe don't like the MP themselves ?

Would be interesting to see/read how said voters feel !