Match Day Thread Premier League, Cups & Euro Watch

Obviously it would be a huge disappointment if we don't win it but if it keeps going to the very end or even ends up goal difference kills us then gotta be proud of what we did.

City have an incredible squad we and we have a very very good one.

If none of the three teams drop off dramatically and United keep up then it's been a very entertaining and competitive league (at the top) this year.

But it ain't over lol

 

Bit hyperbole and red tinted there.

You realise leicester and chelsea beat city this season during the first half of the season .

No shame losing to city away. You boys did. On fact both leicester and chelsea have done better against city than you. Klopp played safe at home and gave city a point

 

I had high hopes that Chelsea would take points off them...

Realistically let's face it. City have a better team and squad than us. We are currently grinding results especially away while they are sweeping sides aside like no one's business. The only team that can stop them IMO s themselves and complacency. Look at the teams that beat them: 3 non top 6 sides apart from Chelsea. Leicester and Crystal Palace had a great day when everything they did went right and City's were just plain unlucky. How they lost to Newcastle after total domination we'll never know.

I think the only team that could slow them (could not would or should) are their city rivals. It might be too much to expect a defeat but I think their red rivals could take 2 points off them. It will be up to us to make that count.

 

yeah ok manc ref had no influence obviously

 

Not sure i agree with them totally dominating newcastle. Yes they had a lot of the ball as usual but i cant remember them creating mang chance. Rafa definitely outmanoeuvred pep. Obviously newcastle had to convert at a very high rate

 

i thought it was the opposite, they created plenty of chances but didn't convert them like they usually do.

 

I think what will happen now is every team meeting them will **** scared of being humiliated and probably beaten before going on the pitch. As if it didn't occur already. The Chelsea debacle would have amplified this and those teams fighting relegation or going for top 4 must surely be looking at their GD. Because ultimately these could be decided on GD.

 

i agree with that carl, but the mentality i would question.

teams struggling know they will probably get beat, so why not try and get a result against them?

no point turning up if you admit defeat before getting on pitch, teams don't seem to have a problem doing it against us, so why not city!

 

Think you have had an easy ride up to now tbh. Apart from a few games half the times teams do what they did against city and just shut up shop and lose 1 0. Medias been fawning over both of you.

Recently your rocky form has meant teams have had a bit more of a go. Your squad just isnt as big as cities

 

first team i think we are pretty even, but like you said squad is nowhere near city level of quality. both teams have had luck, but it only seems to be highlighted for us ie goals we have scored, what about the amount of players city have had that have got away with red cards and been unavailable for games, or should have been.

IF we win the title it will be thoroughly deserved, bbc salford will probably have a media blackout for 3 months and pretend it never happened and say server issues

 

I think the answer is obvious and you've mentioned yourself. They know they'll be beaten. No matter what formation they play. Even with 11 players behind the ball. The naivety of Sarri's formation was evident within minutes. City sliced through them like butter. If you are manager would you attack them? that would be so foolhardy if you think GD could send you down. Teams would now pray for a 1 or 2-0 defeat when they visit the Etihad. Against us with our stuttering form, they think they have a chance.

That is why I think their red rivals could be the only team to take points off them. But then if Solskjear get things wrong they could end up with 4-0 win.

 

bobby,

do you feel your players have downed tools again and trying to get manager sacked, or just beaten by the better team and will improve?

 

but if Newcastle went in with that attitude, city would have got away with it. it was down to poor finishing that let Newcastle off, it can happen so why not try.

we should have beaten bournemouth about same scoreline but only got 3, finishing is key.

 

Tbh i never get this down tools argument. I don't think people ever deliberately go out to lose and at the top level confidence is everything.

If you expect your manager to have a go at you for trying things or not getting into position or if your position is mismanaged, of course its going to affect your game.

As for us, we are weak mentally and its partly sarris tactics and his personnel. I see the way we press and its very weird and knackers our lcm and rcms out as they are normally the ones to initiate.

Plus with hazard who doesnt have the energy it kind of stops our press (like when you tried sturridge. Its a big drop off from him to bobby f).

The other thing is jorginho isnt good enough to cover all the midfield by him self so we get ripped apart.

Saying that it took klopp and pep a season to adapt so i would rather sarri be given til end of next season before chopping him.

We have been horrible this season away from home

 

good post bobby,

only thing i would say against that is pep was going to be given money to spend and was given time to implement his style on the team and we all saw what he did at barca. Klopp was brought in for building a team and would obviously take time similar to dortmund.

Sarri be good enough to implement that or given funds for players he wants for his style?

 

City have 11 games to play Liverpool and Tottenham both have 12 each.
City played 27 and lost 4 There is probability the lose another game. Number of draws can be the key city had drawn 2 already
Liverpool played 26 and lost 1 there is also a probability of losing another game Number of draws can be the key Liverpool had drawn 5 already
Tottenham played 26 and lost 6. There is also a probability of losing two more games-No team have lost more than seven games and win the league.
Tottenham don't draw games.

#The bottom line is, it's going to be between city and Liverpool

 

1. How many pts behind Citeh will Spurs be by the time of that game ??

2. Can you please give me the winning numbers for the Euromillions draw tomorrow.

 

Bournemouth was a no brainer. Howe for all his ability and performance so far doesn't have the tactical know how to have a different game plan. We all knew that he was going to be open and he was going to be beaten even before the match.

Newcastle with Rafa I think had only 2 or 3 chances and they scored 2. City had many chances and could score after that very early goal. Would any team in the relegation zone take that chance if they were neck and neck with others?

City are now maintaining a frightening pace and challenging us to keep up. Our game in hand is the mancs away. Forget GD and a high score. We just have to win if it meant defending for 90 minutes and scoring one on the counter punch. They will only attack at Old Trafford. Our defence for once will be more important than our attack.

 

All we need is 12 wins.... the problem is we have 3 games that are not going to enable that. utd away (not won since 2104 there) everton away (their cup final) and Spurs at home. (tough) We could have had the buffer to cope more or less but blew it form winning positions.

It was a great run, we could still have a great ending but it requires something which is unbelievable form us to do it.

BTW the pattern of whats beaten city is clear, side must take every chance, side must not give space to city, side must have some form of player that can take clearances in and hold the ball up to get the side up the pitch.

The pattern is clear, grow your grass, don't water your pitch, hoof the ball long into full back channel.s

The thing is you'd look at city now with CL, League cup final and FA cup to play and just hope for a crunch of games that could derail something.

Pepe will rest his players in FA cup. 100%, if he loses it he will shrug.

the league cup final is a final and can be taken care of now.

The CL is the thing I hope but we are in it too and i don't know about us coping as well as they can.

 

Sarri has done well at all clubs hes been with. Also its time we moved on from hazard and tried something else imo.

As for funds, i don't think he will be given mega bucks but it will be the usual 70 odd mill (+ sales). The new person running the show has been particular tight relatively speaking (marina) and is always haggling over fees but not doing a great job imo.

I think sarri just needs to adapt and ditch his 4 3 3 (or his implementation of it) as i dont think it fits our personnel, especially kante as a box to box player. We lack creativity in cm and the only ones that have it are stuck on the wings or loftus cheek who he doesnt typically start.