So anything that gets done to the Israeli people gets laughed off and put down as a scuffle. Why didn't you just label this article Israel; The Worst Place in the World there is no reasoning with you and your die hard beliefs that Iran are flawless.
Why do people dislike Israel so much? I literally have no idea what they've done to piss so many people off.
Jesus Jacky are you thick or what? A "wee boat"? There were over 500 people on the Mavi Marmara please log in to view this image 3 IDF men were taken below decks and held hostage. Read the report ffs, you are making a fool of yourself man.
Every disaster, problem, anything in the world that has gone wrong the Jews are to blame, according to some of the folk on here. Total mentalists talking about Iran as if it's a 1960s San Fran hippy commune.
yes there was, but again this criticism is at best an appeasement. initially even isreals IDF spokeswoman, Avital Leibovich, saying, "This happened in waters outside Israeli territory, but we have the right to defend ourselves," how then can palmer suggest that the flotila was at fault? they were not even in israels territory. You were a soldier ffs is this protocol? what about warnings etc? UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said on June 5 that the IDF raid of the Mavi Marmara should be investigated by a New Zealand-led committee, with Israeli and Turkish deputies. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu hoped the Israeli-led process would put an end to efforts in the United Nations to set up an international inquiry, which many Israelis fear would be biased. In Israel and around the world, some said the committee lacked sufficient credibility and investigative powers
Who said Iran are flawless. I have stated they both have dispicable human rights records . I just dont understand the double standards when it comes to both country's nuclear ambitions. Im just trying to point out alot of misinformation people seem to be basing their judgements on
Just to add, th epalmer report said the following The report was published on 2 September 2011after being delayed, reportedly to allow Israel and Turkey to continue reconciliation talks. The commission determined Israel's blockade of the Gaza Strip to be legal, but stated that the "decision to board the vessels with such substantial force at a great distance from the blockade zone and with no final warning immediately prior to the boarding was excessive and unreasonable." The commission recognized that the IDF were met with "organized and violent resistance from a group of passengers" upon boarding the vessel and therefore force was necessary for purposes of self defense, but stated that "the loss of life and injuries resulting from the use of force by Israeli forces during the take-over of the Mavi Marmara was unacceptable". Of those killed, the report noted, "no evidence has been provided to establish that any of the deceased were armed with lethal weapons". It further noted that "at least one of those killed, Furkan Dogan, was shot at extremely close range. Mr. Dogan sustained wounds to the face, back of the skull, back and left leg. That suggests he may already have been lying wounded when the fatal shot was delivered, as suggested by witness accounts to that effect." Israel's failure to provide an explanation for or details on this and the other nine deaths was criticized
86. However, the Panel seriously questions the true nature and objectives of the flotilla organizers, 88.flotilla passengers committed that they would “not obey by the decisions, warnings or demands of the governments of countries in the region regarding this ship.” Further, the organizers recognized that the flotilla’s actions could have “legal and punitive consequences,” and all flotilla participants were required to accept individual responsibility for those potential outcomes. However, there was no warning of the physical risk entailed. 89.If the flotilla had been a purely humanitarian mission it is hard to see why so many passengers were embarked and with what purpose. Furthermore, the quality and value of many of the humanitarian goods on board the vessels is questionable. There were large quantities of humanitarian and construction supplies on board the Gazze 1, Eleftheri Mesogeio and Defne-Y.305 There were some foodstuffs and medical goods on board the Mavi Marmara,306 although it seems that these were intended for the voyage itself.Any “humanitarian supplies” were limited to foodstuffs and toys carried in passengers’ personal baggage. 90.There is a further issue. No adequate port facilities exist in Gaza capable of receiving vessels of the size of the Mavi Marmara.It appears that arrangements had been made to offload the cargo onto smaller vessels at sea, which no doubt would be awkward and inefficient. Yet the flotilla rejected offers to unload any essential humanitarian supplies at other ports and have them delivered to Gaza by land. These offers were made even during the voyage.The conclusion that the primary objective of the flotilla organizers was to generate publicity by attempting to breach the blockade is further reinforced by material before the Panel that suggests that a reception for the flotilla had been arranged by Hamas. 91. It should be noted that flotilla passengers specifically committed not to bring weapons on the journey.316 Neverthless, it is alleged that the IHH participants on board the Mavi Marmara included a “hardcore group” of approximately 40 activists, who had effective control over the vessel during the journey and were not subjected to security screening when they boarded the Mavi Marmara in Istanbul 95. Although people are entitled to express their political views, the flotilla acted recklessly in attempting to breach the naval blockade. The majority of the flotilla participants had no violent intentions, but there exist serious questions about the conduct, true nature and objectives of the flotilla organizers, particularly IHH. The actions of the flotilla needlessly carried the potential for escalation. 96.It is clear from both national reports that both Israel and Turkey were aware of the departure of the flotilla well in advance. As noted above, if the flotilla attempted to run the blockade it was reasonably foreseeable that it could be stopped by force and that casualties could occur. There were clear risks if decisions were made by the flotilla organizers to run the blockade and it was necessary for the States concerned to do all they could to minimize or eliminate those risks.
I did and i quote the "decision to board the vessels with such substantial force at a great distance from the blockade zone and with no final warning immediately prior to the boarding was excessive and unreasonable." this is in the second or palmer report
You're fooling no one anti-Semite this is not the first and it will not be the last were you have opened discusssion and then went on to attack Israelis and the Jewish people. Obviously deep hatred brewing within you.
seriously look at the language used with regards to the flotilla and the israeli actions. words like 'alleged' , 'can be questioned' are used with regards to the flotilla yet it was execessive and unreasonable for the israelis
No wonder he's not a teacher any more (if he ever was). Imagine this ****ing arsehole in charge of kids?
That's a bit nonsensical, if Iran was Israels only threat we would not be where we are today, you must take the others into account for a complete picture Yes his infamous quote on tv translates into English....did he make a mistake or aomerhing
he was commenting to jackie dickhead. no wonder britain is involved in so many illegal wars, thick as shoite soldiers like you
